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    Bava Batra 146a

    Chapter 9 - Mi SheMet

    גם: בבא בתרא דף קמ״ו ע״א, פרק ט׳ מי שמת

    English translation - Bava Batra 146a

    Translation: William Davidson Edition - English. Read alongside the Aramaic below; numbers match the passages of the daf.

    1And Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi says: Is it so that all the days of the poor are terrible? But aren’t there Shabbatot and Festivals, when even the poor enjoy their meals and rest? Rather, explain this in accordance with the statement of Shmuel, as Shmuel says: A change of regimen [ veset ] causes the onset of intestinal disease, and as a result the poor suffer even from a change for the good.

    2It is written in the book of ben Sira: All the days of the poor are terrible. Ben Sira says: The nights as well. His roof is at the lowest point of the roofs; the rain of roofs go onto his roof. His vineyard is at the height of the mountains; the soil of his vineyard goes onto other vineyards.

    3MISHNA: With regard to one who sends presents [ sivlonot ] to his father-in-law’s house following his betrothal, even if he sent there the sum of ten thousand dinars and subsequently ate there a groom’s feast even worth the value of a single dinar, if for any reason the marriage is not effected, the presents are not collected in return by the formerly betrothed man. If he did not eat a groom’s feast there, the presents are collected, as they were not an unconditional gift. If he sent many presents with the stipulation that they return with her to her husband’s house, i.e., to his own house, after the wedding, these are collected if the marriage is not effected. If he sent a few presents for her to use while in her father’s house, they are not collected.

    4GEMARA: The mishna states that if the betrothed man ate food worth even a single dinar at his father-in-law’s house, the presents are not returned. Rava says: This applies specifically to the value of a dinar, but if he ate food worth less than the value of a dinar, it is not so. The Gemara asks: Isn’t that obvious, as we learned the halakha in the mishna with reference to the value of a dinar? The Gemara answers: It is stated lest you say that the same is true even in the case of less than a dinar, and the reason that the mishna teaches the halakha with reference to a dinar is that it teaches the matter in the manner in which it typically occurs, and one does not usually eat less than that. Rava therefore teaches us that the formulation of the mishna is precise; the mishna is not referring to the value of less than a dinar.

    5§ The Gemara asks: We learned the halakha in the mishna with regard to a betrothed man who ate at his father-in-law’s house. What is the halakha if he drank there? We learned the halakha in the mishna with regard to a case where he, the betrothed, ate there. What is the halakha if his agent ate there? We learned the halakha in the mishna with regard to a case where the betrothed man ate there, at his father-in-law’s house. What is the halakha if his father-in-law sent him a feast to his home?

    6The Gemara answers: Come and hear a proof concerning one these matters, as Rav Yehuda says that Shmuel says: There was an incident involving one man who sent to his father-in-law’s house one hundred wagons full of jars of wine and of jars of oil, and one hundred wagons full of silver vessels, and one hundred wagons full of gold vessels, and one hundred wagons full of garments of fine wool [ milat ]. And he rode over in his state of joy and went and stood by the entrance to his father-in-law’s house. And they brought out to him a cup of hot drink and he drank it, and he subsequently died.

    7The question arose as to whether the presents must be returned to the betrothed’s heirs. And Rabbi Aḥa Sar HaBira raised this halakha before the Sages in Usha, and they said: Presents that are typically consumed are not collected, and those that are not typically consumed are collected. One can conclude from this incident that even if the betrothed only drank, some of the presents cannot be reclaimed.

    8The Gemara asks: Can you learn from this incident that the presents cannot be claimed even if he ate or drank less than the value of a dinar, since a cup of hot drink is not worth a dinar? Rav Ashi said: Who shall say to us that they did not grind a pearl worth one thousand dinars and serve it to him to drink? The Gemara asks: Can you learn from this incident that even if they sent the feast to him the presents cannot be claimed, as he drank at the entrance and did not enter inside? The Gemara rejects this conclusion: Perhaps the entire entrance of his father-in-law’s house is considered as his father-in-law’s house.

    9A dilemma was raised before the Sages: Rava states that if the betrothed man ate less than the value of a dinar at his father-in-law’s house, and the marriage is not effected, he can collect the presents he sent. What is the halakha concerning whether he must divide the value of the presents, and claim only part of the value, in proportion to the amount he ate? And what is the halakha concerning the enhancement of the value of the presents? Does one say that since the halakha is that if they are extant they are returned to him, therefore they were enhanced under his ownership? Or perhaps, since the halakha is that if they are lost or stolen, the betrothed woman’s family is required to repay him, therefore they were enhanced under her ownership. The Gemara concludes: These dilemmas shall stand unresolved.

    10Rava raises a dilemma: What is the halakha with regard to presents that are typically consumed, but were not consumed? The Gemara replies: Come and hear a proof: And Rabbi Aḥa Sar HaBira raised this halakha before the Sages at Usha, and they said: Presents that are typically consumed are not collected, and those that are not typically consumed are collected. What, is it not referring to presents that are typically consumed even though they were not consumed? The Gemara rejects this: No, the mishna is referring to presents that were actually consumed.

    11The Gemara replies: Come and hear a proof from the mishna: If he sent a few presents for her to use while she is in her father’s house, they are not collected. This indicates that they cannot be collected in any event, irrespective of whether they were used or not. Rava interpreted the mishna as referring to a snood or hairnet, which are insignificant items that the betrothed man sends without any intention of later collecting them.

    12§ Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: There was an incident involving one man who sent new wine, and new oil, and new linen garments to his father-in-law’s house at the time of Shavuot . The Gemara asks: What is this incident teaching us? The Gemara answers: If you wish, say that it teaches us the importance, i.e., the greatness, of Eretz Yisrael, where there is new wine, oil, and linen already available at the time of Shavuot . And if you wish, say instead that it teaches that if the betrothed man claims that he sent these items at the time of Shavuot , his claim is a plausible claim, and there is no reason to question it.

    13Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: There was an incident involving one man who was told that his wife, i.e., his betrothed, was one whose sense of smell was impaired, and he followed her into a ruin, carrying a date with him, to check her to see if she could correctly identify the smell. He said to her: I smell the scent of radish in the Galilee.

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    בבא בתרא 146 עמוד א

    1ואמר ר' יהושע בן לוי: ״כל ימי עני רעים״?! והא איכא שבתות וימים טובים! כדשמואל דאמר שמואל: שנוי וסת תחלת חולי.

    2כתיב ״בספר בן סירא״: כל ימי עני רעים. בן סירא אומר: אף לילות. בשפל גגים גגו, ממטר גגים לגגו. ברום הרים כרמו, מעפר כרמו לכרמים.

    Mishna

    3השולח סבלונות לבית חמיו; שלח שם מאה מנה, ואכל שם סעודת חתן אפילו בדינר אינן נגבין. לא אכל שם סעודת חתן הרי אלו נגבין. שלח סבלונות מרובין שיחזרו עמה לבית בעלה הרי אלו נגבין. סבלונות מועטין שתשתמש בהן בבית אביה אין נגבין.

    Gemara

    4אמר רבא: דוקא דינר, אבל פחות מדינר לא. פשיטא, דינר תנן! מהו דתימא: הוא הדין דאפילו פחות מדינר, והאי דקתני דינר אורחא דמילתא קתני; קא משמע לן.

    5״אכל״ תנן; שתה מאי? ״הוא״ תנן; שלוחו מאי? ״שם״ תנן; שגר לו, מאי?

    6תא שמע, דאמר רב יהודה אמר שמואל: מעשה באדם אחד ששגר לבית חמיו מאה קרונות של כדי יין ושל כדי שמן ושל כלי כסף ושל כלי זהב ושל כלי מילת; ורכב בשמחתו, והלך ועמד על פתח בית חמיו; והוציאו כוס של חמין ושתה, ומת.

    7וזו הלכה העלה רבי אחא שר הבירה לפני חכמים לאושא, ואמרו: סבלונות העשוין ליבלות אין נגבין, ושאין עשוין ליבלות נגבין. שמע מינה: אפילו שתה.

    8שמעת מינה אפילו פחות מדינר? אמר רב אשי: מאן לימא לן דלא שחקי ליה מרגניתא דשויא אלפא זוזי, ואשקיה. שמעת מינה אפילו שגרו לו? דלמא כל פתח בית חמיו כבית חמיו דמי.

    9איבעיא להו: מהו שישלש? שבח סבלונות, מהו? כיון דאי איתנהו לדידיה הדרי, ברשותיה שבוח; או דלמא, כיון דאי אבדי או מגנבי בעי שלומי ליה, ברשותא דידה שבוח? תיקו.

    10בעי רבא: סבלונות העשוין ליבלות, ולא בלו, מהו? תא שמע: וזו הלכה העלה רבי אחא שר הבירה לפני חכמים באושא, ואמרו: סבלונות העשוין ליבלות אין נגבין, ושאין עשוין ליבלות נגבין. מאי, לאו אע"ג דלא בלו? לא, דבלו.

    11תא שמע: סבלונות מועטין שתשתמש בהן, והיא בבית אביה אין נגבין! תרגמה רבא: בייבא וסבכתא.

    12אמר רב יהודה אמר רב: מעשה באדם אחד ששגר לבית חמיו יין חדש ושמן חדש וכלי פשתן חדש בעצרת. מאי קא משמע לן? איבעית אימא: חשיבותא דארץ ישראל קמ"ל ואיבעית אימא: דאי טעין, טענתיה טענה.

    13אמר רב יהודה אמר רב: מעשה באדם אחד שאמרו לו אשתו תותרנית היא, ונכנס אחריה לחורבה לבודקה, אמר לה: ריח צנון אני מריח בגליל.

    Tosafot

    סבלונות העשוין ליבלות אין נגבין - והא דתנא מרובין שתביא עמה מבית אביה לבית בעלה הרי אלו נגבין היינו אין עשוין לבלות ומועטין היינו עשוין לבלות א"נ במועטות בעינן דוקא שאין עשוי לבלות אבל במרובים אפי' בבלות נמי נגבין:

    איבעיא להו מהו שתשלש - פי' אמילתא דרבא קאי דאמר דוקא אכל דינר אבל פחות מדינר לא וקא אמר אם אכל פחות מדינר מהו שתגבה לפי מה שאכל אם אכל חצי דינר תגבה החצי ולישנא דתשלש כמו משלשין בממון ואין משלשין במכות (מכות דף ה.). מ"ר:

    תרגמה רבא בייבא - פי' רבינו שמואל דה"ה דהוה מצי לשנויי לא והוא דבלו ור"י אומר דבשלמא בברייתא מיירי בבלו אלא מתני' דלא מיירי בבלו לא מיתוקמא בבלו:

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    אי בעית אימא חשיבותא דארץ ישראל - ירושלמי: חד בר נש שלח לארוסתו עשרין קרונות מיני חרת מן פסח לעצרת ולא אתקשי לרבנין אלא מההן איתי זרע דכיתן וזיתין, ר' פרידא אוקר לר' יוחנן נשיא תרין פוגלא בין ריש שתא ליומא דצומא רבא, והוה פקי שמיטותא, והוה אית בון טענייא דגמלא, אמר ליה ולית אינון אסירין ולא (סמיחן) [ספיחין] אינון אמר ליה בפקי שמיטתא אזדרעו, באותה שעה התיר רבי ליקח ירק ממוצאי שביעית מיד.

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