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    Shabbat 50b

    Chapter 4 - BaMeh Tomnin

    גם: שבת דף נ׳ ע״ב, פרק ד׳ במה טומנין

    English translation - Shabbat 50b

    Translation: William Davidson Edition - English. Read alongside the Aramaic below; numbers match the passages of the daf.

    1A nazirite, for whom it is prohibited to cut his hair, may wash his hair with sand and natron and separate it with his fingers; however, he may not comb it, as combing will certainly cause hair to fall out. Apparently, Rabbi Shimon permits washing hair even in a case where it is prohibited to cause hair to fall out; in his opinion, the fact that washing one’s hair might inadvertently cause that to happen is not a source of concern.

    2Rather, both this baraita and that baraita, which disagree with regard to cleaning silver utensils with sand and natron, are in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, who holds that an unintentional act is prohibited. And there are two tanna’im in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda. They disagree with regard to Rabbi Yehuda’s opinion. This tanna , in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, holds that sand and natron scrape and smooth the utensils. Therefore, their use on Shabbat is prohibited. And that tanna , also in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, holds that sand and natron do not scrape and smooth the utensils. Therefore, their use on Shabbat is permitted.

    3The Gemara raises an objection: How did you establish that baraita ? It was in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda. If so, say the latter clause of the baraita : But his face, his hands, and his feet, it is permitted to wash with sand and natron. Doesn’t he thereby cause hair to fall out? It should be prohibited according to Rabbi Yehuda.

    4The Gemara answers: If you wish, say that the permission to wash one’s face with sand and natron refers to a child; and if you wish, say instead that it refers to a woman; and if you wish, say instead that it refers to a eunuch. All of them have no facial hair, and that is why there is no concern that use of sand and natron to clean their faces will cause hair to fall out.

    5The Gemara continues: Rav Yehuda said: Washing one’s face with powdered frankincense (Rav Hai Gaon) is permitted on Shabbat, even if he has a beard, as it does not cause hair to fall out. Rav Yosef said: Washing with the solid residue of jasmine from which its fragrant oil was squeezed is permitted. Rava said: Washing with ground pepper is permitted. Rav Sheshet said: Washing with berada is permitted on Shabbat.

    6The Gemara asks: What is berada ? Rav Yosef said: It is a mixture of one-third aloe, one-third myrtle, and one-third violets. Rav Neḥemya bar Yosef said: Everywhere that there is a mixture with no majority of aloe, it may well be used. Even if the mixture contains more than a third aloe, as long as it constitutes less than a majority, it does not cause hair to fall out.

    7The Sages raised a dilemma before Rav Sheshet: What is the halakha with regard to splitting olives on a rock on Shabbat in order to wash with the oil that oozes from them ( ge’onim )? He said to them: And did they permit doing so on a weekday? Rav Sheshet holds that crushing olives in that manner is prohibited even during the week because it involves ruining food. After the olives are split in that manner, they are no longer fit for consumption.

    8The Gemara comments: Let us say that Rav Sheshet disagrees with the opinion of Shmuel. As Shmuel said: A person may perform all his needs with bread, and he need not be concerned that it might be ruined. The Sages said in response: Rav Sheshet does not necessarily disagree with Shmuel. Using bread does not render it disgusting and inedible; splitting these olives renders them disgusting and inedible.

    9The Gemara relates that Ameimar, Mar Zutra, and Rav Ashi were sitting on Shabbat, and they brought berada before them for washing. Ameimar and Rav Ashi washed with it; Mar Zutra did not wash. They said to him: Doesn’t the Master hold in accordance with that which Rav Sheshet said: Washing with berada is permitted on Shabbat? Rav Mordekhai, who was also there, said to them: Except for him, the Master; i.e., do not draw conclusions from Mar Zutra, as he does not hold that one is permitted to use berada , even on a weekday.

    10Mar Zutra holds in accordance with that which was taught in a baraita : A person may scrape off dried excrement crusts and scabs of a wound that are on his flesh because of the pain that they are causing him. However, if he does so in order to clean and beautify himself, it is prohibited. According to the tanna of this baraita , it is prohibited to adorn or beautify oneself, as the verse: “Neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment” (Deuteronomy 22:5) prohibits dressing or conducting oneself in the manner of women.

    11The Gemara asks: And Ameimar and Rav Ashi, who permit use of berada , in accordance with whose opinion do they hold? They hold in accordance with that which was taught in a baraita : A person must wash his face, his hands, and his feet every day for the sake of his Maker, as it is stated: “The Lord has made everything for His own purpose” (Proverbs 16:4). Every beautiful thing that exists in the world sings the praise of God Who created beautiful things. Therefore, it is appropriate for one to beautify himself in praise of God.

    12We learned in the mishna: Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya says: If he placed the pot in a basket filled with fleece, he leans the basket on its side so that the fleece will fall to the side of the pot, and takes the pot. Otherwise, there is room for concern lest the wool collapse when he lifts the pot from the basket. Then he will be unable to replace the pot. It is prohibited to move the fleece to make room for the pot, since the fleece is set-aside. However, the Rabbis disagree and say: He may lift the pot and afterward replace it. Rabbi Abba said that Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Ashi said that Rav said: Everyone agrees, even the Rabbis, that if the cavity in which the pot had been placed was destroyed, its walls having collapsed inward, it is prohibited to return the pot to the basket.

    13The Gemara asks, based on what we learned in the mishna. And the Rabbis say: He may lift the pot and afterward replace it. The Gemara elaborates: What are the circumstances? If the cavity in which the pot had been placed was not destroyed, the Rabbis say fittingly that it is permitted to replace the pot; why would Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya prohibit the practice? Rather, is it not that the Rabbis permit returning the pot even though the cavity was destroyed? Apparently, that is the subject of the dispute in the mishna.

    14The Gemara rejects this: No, actually, everyone agrees that if the cavity was destroyed, it is prohibited to return the pot to the basket. The mishna is dealing with a case where the cavity was not destroyed, and here the tanna’im disagree with regard to whether or not one need be concerned lest, if one is allowed to remove the pot from the basket without tilting it to the side, the cavity be destroyed and he will come to return the pot to the basket anyway. One Sage, Rabbi Elazar ben Azarya, holds that one need be concerned lest the cavity be destroyed and he return the pot anyway; and the other Sage, a reference to the Rabbis, holds that one need not be concerned about that.

    15The Gemara records several rulings with regard to placing an object into another object that is set-aside. Rav Huna said: With regard to this fragrant daffodil branch that was kept in a pot of moist earth in the house; if on Shabbat eve one inserted it into the earth, then pulled it out, and then inserted it again into the earth, it is permitted to pull it out again on Shabbat. By inserting it and then pulling it out, he has already widened the cavity in which the branch was placed. There is no room for concern that when he pulls it out again on Shabbat he will cause earth to shift from its place. And if he did not do so on Shabbat eve, it is prohibited to pull it out on Shabbat.

    16Shmuel said: This knife that is stored between bricks; if one stuck it between the bricks on Shabbat eve, pulled it out, and then stuck it between the bricks, it is permitted to pull it out on Shabbat. And if he did not do so on Shabbat eve, it is prohibited to pull it out on Shabbat.

    17Mar Zutra, and some say Rav Ashi, said: Placing a knife between the branches of a hedge of reeds ( ge’onim ) may well be done and there is no concern lest one come to cut the reeds when he removes it.

    18Rav Mordekhai said to Rava: Rav Ketina raised a conclusive refutation of the opinions of Rav Huna and Shmuel from that which we learned in a mishna: With regard to one who conceals a turnip or radish in the ground beneath a vine for safekeeping, if some of its leaves were showing, allowing access to pull the turnip or the radish from the ground, he need neither be concerned;

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    For his Possessor - For his Possessor's honor, as it is written (Genesis 9:6) "that He made...in the Divine image." And further, when one sees beautiful creatures, one says, "Blessed is the One who has such things in His world."

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    שבת 50 עמוד ב

    1נזיר חופף ומפספס, אבל לא סורק!

    2אלא הא והא ר' יהודה היא, ותרי תנאי אליבא דר' יהודה. האי תנא אליבא דר' יהודה סבר גריר, והאי תנא אליבא דר' יהודה סבר לא גריר.

    3במאי אוקימתא כר' יהודה, אימא סיפא: אבל פניו ידיו ורגליו מותר. הא מעבר שיער!

    4איבעית אימא בקטן, ואיבעית אימא באשה, ואיבעית אימא בסריס.

    5אמר רב יהודה: עפר לבינתא שרי. אמר רב יוסף: כוספא דיסמין שרי. אמר רבא: עפר פלפלי שרי. אמר רב ששת: ברדא שרי.

    6מאי ברדא? אמר רב יוסף: תילתא אהלא ותילתא אסא ותילתא סיגלי. אמר רב נחמיה בר יוסף: כל היכא דליכא רובא אהלא שפיר דמי.

    7בעו מיניה מרב ששת: מהו לפצוע זיתים בשבת? אמר להו וכי בחול מי התירו? קסבר משום הפסד אוכלין.

    8לימא פליגא דשמואל, דאמר שמואל: עושה אדם כל צורכו בפת! אמרי: פת לא מאיסא, הני מאיסי.

    9אמימר ומר זוטרא ורב אשי הוו יתבי, אייתו לקמייהו ברדא. אמימר ורב אשי משו, מר זוטרא לא משא. אמרו ליה: לא סבר לה מר להא דאמר רב ששת ברדא שרי?! אמר להו רב מרדכי: בר מיניה דמר, דאפילו בחול נמי לא ס"ל׃

    10סבר לה כי הא דתניא: מגרר אדם גלדי צואה וגלדי מכה שעל בשרו בשביל צערו, אם בשביל ליפות אסור.

    11ואינהו כמאן סברוה? כי הא דתניא: רוחץ אדם פניו ידיו ורגליו בכל יום בשביל קונו, משום שנאמר: ״(משלי טז״, ד) ״כל פעל ה' למענהו״.

    12רבי אלעזר בן עזריה אומר: קופה, מטה על צדה ונוטל, שמא יטול וכו'. אמר רבי אבא אמר רבי חייא בר אשי (אמר רב): הכל מודים שאם נתקלקלה הגומא שאסור להחזיר.

    13תנן, וחכמים אומרים: נוטל ומחזיר. היכי דמי? אי דלא נתקלקלה הגומא שפיר קא אמרי רבנן. אלא לאו, אף על פי דנתקלקלה הגומא.

    14לא, לעולם דלא נתקלקלה, והכא בחוששין קמיפלגי. מר סבר חוששין שמא נתקלקלה הגומא, ומר סבר אין חוששין.

    15אמר רב הונא: האי סליקוסתא דצה, שלפה, והדר דצה שריא ואי לאו, אסיר.

    16אמר שמואל: האי סכינא דביני אורבי דצה, שלפה, והדר דצה שרי. ואי לאו אסיר.

    17מר זוטרא, ואיתימא רב אשי אמר: בגורדיתא דקני שפיר דמי.

    18אמר ליה רב מרדכי לרבא, מתיב רב קטינא תיובתא: הטומן לפת וצנונות תחת הגפן, אם היה מקצת עליו מגולים אינו חושש׃

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    Because of his pain - If the only pain that he suffers is that he is embarrassed to walk among people then it is permissible, because there is no greater pain than this.

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    Rabbeinu Chananel

    נימא כתנאי בכל חפין את הכלים כו' מלשון אשה חופפת וסורקת כו' ברחיצת ידים דקא אמרי' אבל רוחץ פניו ידיו ורגליו הא תנא דסבר משום השרת נימין מדולדלות. אליבא דר' יהודא מוקים לה בקטן וסריס ואשה דלית להון שיער אבל הלכה כר' שמעון דאפי' גברי בעלי שיער שרו וכן עפר לבינתה שרי למימשא ביה ידיה. ויש מי שמפרש לבינתה מלשון (ש"ה ג) מור ולבונה וכן כוספא דיסמין. וכן בראדא דהיא תילתא אהלא.

    תילתא סיגלי - תילתא אסא הני כולהו לענין רחיצת ידים בהן. וקיי"ל דבכולהי הני שרי אבל רובא אהלא רב נחמיה לא הוה שרי וכ"ש כולה (אוכלין וכ"ש בשבת) לפצוע זיתים וכיוצא בהן לרחוץ בהן ידיו בחול אסור משום הפסד אוכלין. וכ"ש בשבת שאסור. וזה שאמר שמואל עושה אדם כל צורכיו בפת לית הלכתא כוותיה והאוסר ידיו לרחוץ (כרב אדא) [בברדא] סבר ליה כי האי תנא דתניא מגרר אדם גילדי צואה וגילדי מכה שעל בשרו בשביל צערו. ואם לייפות עצמו אסור.

    והמתיר סבר לה כר' שמעון בן גמליאל דאמר רוחץ אדם פניו ידיו ורגליו בשביל כבוד קונו משום שנאמר כל פעל ה' למענהו:

    מתני' ר' אלעזר בן עזריה אומר קופה מטה על צדה ונוטל כו'.

    אסיקנא הכל מודים שאם נתקלקלה הגומא שאסור להחזיר סליקוסתא שהיא אגודה של חבצלת וכיוצא בה אמר רב הונא דעצה בחול או בטיט וחלצה והרויח בטיט מע"ש כדי שתהא נכנסת ויוצא בגומא מותרת (כולה) [לטלטלה] בשבת וכן אמר שמואל בסכינא דנעיצא ביני אורבי כמו שאמר בסליקוסתא.

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