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    Bava Metzia 4b

    Chapter 1 - Shenayim Ochazin

    גם: בבא מציעא דף ד׳ ע״ב, פרק א׳ שנים אוחזין

    English translation - Bava Metzia 4b

    Translation: William Davidson Edition - English. Read alongside the Aramaic below; numbers match the passages of the daf.

    1If it is written in a promissory note that one borrowed an unspecified amount of sela’im , or that one borrowed an unspecified amount of dinars, and the creditor says: I lent you five sela , and the debtor says: You lent me only three, in this case Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says: Since the debtor admitted to part of the claim, he takes an oath. Rabbi Akiva says: Since the wording of the note indicates only that he owes two dinars, the minimum plural amount, by admitting that he owes three he is merely the equivalent of one returning a lost item, and he is exempt from taking an oath.

    2In any event, the baraita teaches that Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says: Since the debtor admitted to part of the claim, he takes an oath. This indicates that the reason that he is obligated to take an oath is specifically because he said that he owes three dinars, but had he admitted to owing only two, he would have been exempt from taking an oath. And concerning the minimal obligation recorded in this promissory note, to which he admits, which is two dinars, it is as though he said: Here you are. An obligation recorded in a promissory note is tantamount to an obligation concerning which the defendant says: Here you are. And therefore, conclude from it that one who says: Here you are, is exempt from taking an oath with regard to the part of the claim he denies.

    3The Gemara rejects this: No, actually I will say to you that even if he admitted that he owes two dinars he is obligated to take an oath, and the reason that the baraita teaches the dispute specifically with regard to the case of three dinars is not to exclude a case where he admits that he owes only two, but rather it is to exclude the opinion of Rabbi Akiva, who says that he is the equivalent of one returning a lost item, and he is therefore exempt. Therefore, Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar teaches us that he is considered like one who admits to part of the claim, and he is obligated to take an oath.

    4The Gemara asks: If so, the baraita should have been phrased differently. If the defendant is obligated to take an oath even in a case where he admits that he owes two dinars, rather than stating that Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar says: Since the debtor admitted to part of the claim, he takes an oath, the baraita should have stated: Even this one, who admits to owing three dinars, takes an oath, in addition to one who admits to owing two dinars.

    5Rather, that explanation should be rejected. Actually, if he admits that he owes two dinars, he is exempt from taking an oath, but nevertheless, one who says: Here you are, is obligated to take an oath. And the reason for this distinction is that here, the case is different, as the note supports him, i.e., it indicates that he owes two dinars. Therefore, he is exempt from taking an oath with regard to the rest.

    6Alternatively, if he admits to owing two dinars he is exempt for a different reason: Because a promissory note creates a lien on the debtor’s land, and there is a principle that one does not take an oath with regard to a debtor’s denial of a debt that is secured with a lien on land. Oaths are administered only when one denies owing money or movable property.

    7There are those who raise an objection to Rav Sheshet’s opinion from the latter clause of this baraita , which teaches that Rabbi Akiva says: He is merely the equivalent of one returning a lost item and is exempt from taking an oath. The Gemara infers: The reason he is exempt is that he said that he owes three dinars. But had he admitted to owing only two, he would have been obligated to take an oath. And concerning the minimal obligation recorded in this promissory note, to which he admits, which is two dinars, it is as though he said: Here you are. Learn from it that one who says: Here you are, is obligated to take an oath.

    8The Gemara rejects this: No, actually I will say to you that if he admits that he owes two dinars he is also exempt from taking an oath, and the reason that the baraita teaches the dispute specifically with regard to the case of three dinars is to exclude the opinion of Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar, who says that he is considered one who admits to part of the claim and he is obligated to take an oath. Rabbi Akiva, therefore, teaches us that in his opinion, the defendant is the equivalent of one returning a lost item, and he is exempt from taking an oath.

    9The Gemara comments: So too, it is reasonable to explain the baraita as just explained, as, if it enters your mind that one who admits that he owes two dinars is obligated to take an oath, how does Rabbi Akiva deem him exempt in a case where he admits that he owes three dinars? Perhaps this debtor is employing artifice, thinking: If I say that I owe two, I will be required to take an oath. Therefore, I will say that I owe three so that I will be considered equivalent to one returning a lost item and will be exempt from taking an oath. Rather, learn from it that even if he admits that he owes only two dinars, he is also exempt from taking an oath.

    10The Gemara asks: But this explanation poses a difficulty to the opinion of Rabbi Ḥiyya, that a defendant is obligated to take an oath in a case where he says: Here you are. In other words, Rabbi Ḥiyya’s opinion is negated by the case of one who admits that he owes only two dinars, where he is exempt from taking an oath. The Gemara answers: The case there is different, as the note supports him. Therefore, he is not required to take an oath. Alternatively, he is exempt because a promissory note creates a lien on the debtor’s land, and there is a principle that one does not take an oath with regard to a debtor’s denial of a debt that is secured with a lien on land.

    11Mar Zutra, son of Rav Naḥman, raises an objection to the opinion of Rav Sheshet from a mishna ( Shevuot 38b): If one claimed that another owed him vessels and land, and the defendant admitted to owing him vessels but denied that he owes him land, or conversely, if he admitted to owing him land but denied that he owes him vessels, he is exempt from taking an oath with regard to what he denies. If he admitted that he owes him part of the land, he is exempt. If he admitted to owing some of the vessels, he is obligated to take an oath with regard to the remainder.

    12The Gemara infers: The reason he is exempt in the first cases is because the claim is for vessels and land, as a claim with regard to land is not subject to an oath. But if the claim is for vessels and vessels, i.e., two sets of vessels, in a manner similar to the case of a claim for vessels and land, he is obligated to take an oath. What are the circumstances of such a case? Is it not a case where he said to him: Here you are? And learn from the mishna that one who says: Here you are, is obligated to take an oath.

    13The Gemara answers: No, actually I will say to you that if the claim is for vessels and vessels he is also exempt. And the fact that the mishna teaches the case of vessels and land teaches us this different halakha : If he admitted that he owes some of the vessels, and is therefore obligated to take an oath, he is also obligated to take an oath with regard to the land that he denied owing his creditor, although in and of itself one does not take an oath with regard to land.

    14The Gemara asks: What is this teaching us? Is this teaching the halakha of binding? According to this halakha , one who is obligated to take an oath in response to a claim can be required to take an oath with regard to an additional claim of land. This cannot be, as we already learned this halakha in a mishna in tractate Kiddushin (26a): When there is a claim brought against a person for movable property and land, and he is obligated to take an oath with regard to the property that does not serve as a guarantee, i.e., the movable property, it binds the property that serves as a guarantee, i.e., the land, so that he is forced to take an oath with regard to it too. Why is this halakha repeated in tractate Shevuot ?

    15The Gemara answers: The mishna here, in Shevuot , is the main reference to this halakha , as it discusses the halakhot of oaths, whereas the mishna there, in tractate Kiddushin , cites it incidentally, in the context of a broader survey of the difference between these two types of property.

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    סלעים דינרין - שטר שכתוב בו פלוני לוה מפלוני סלעין ולא פירש כמה וכן שטר שכתוב בו דינרין סתם:

    אינו אלא כמשיב אבידה - מדהוה ליה למימר שתים והשטר מסייעו דכיון דלא פירש ניכרים הדברים ששנים היו לכך לא הוצרך לפרש דמיעוט סלעים ב' וכיון דאמר ג' משיב אבידה הוא וחכמים פטרו את משיב אבידה מן השבועה דתנן המוצא את המציאה לא ישבע וכו' (גיטין דף מח:):

    טעמא דאמר שלש - קס"ד השתא דמייתי תיובתא מדנקט פלוגתייהו בשלש וחמש ולא נקט ולוה אמר שתים ש"מ בשתים לא מחייב ליה רשב"א וכדמפרש ואזיל דכיון דכל הודאתו בשטר כתובה דשטר נמי שתים משמע וכל משמעות השטר הילך הוא שהרי הקרקעות משועבדים על כך אבל כי אמר שלש סלעים שלישי מלוה ע"פ הוא דלאו בשטר כתובה ואין הקרקעות משועבדים ולאו הילך הוא:

    ה"ג ושטרא דקמודה הילך הוא - ול"ג כיון דקמודה ביה דבלאו הודאתו נמי כל שטרי הילך הוא וה"פ ומאי דקמודה ביה דכתוב בשטר הילך הוא:

    לאפוקי מדר"ע כו' - דאי תנא שתים לא הוה פליג ר"ע:

    א"ה - דבשתים נמי חייב אמאי תנא הואיל והודה מקצת הטענה ישבע רשב"א אומר אף זה ישבע מבעיא ליה ושמעינן דלא משיב אבידה חשיב ליה ומדנקט הואיל משמע דחיובא משום דגרם לעצמו שהודה במקצת דהשתא הוא דהויא הודאה משום דסלע שלישי לאו הילך הוא אבל שתים לא הוי הודאה משום הילך:

    אלא לעולם כו' - אלא אי אית לך לתרוצי תריץ הכי לעולם כדקאמרת הא שתים פטור וטעמא לאו משום הילך דהילך בעלמא חייב:

    ושאני הכא דקא מסייע ליה שטרא - העדים החתומים על השטר מעידין כדבריו שלא היו אלא שתים ולכך לא פירשו מניינן הלכך א"צ שבועה:

    אי נמי - להכי לא הוו שתים הודאה לחייבו שבועה לפי שהשטר אומר כן ושטר הוי שעבוד קרקעות וכשם שאין נשבעין על כפירת קרקעות כך הודאתן אינה מביאה לידי שבועה דקרקעות אמעוט מתורת שבועה במס' שבועות פרק שבועת הדיינין (שבועות מב ב:) אבל כי אמר מלוה חמש ולוה שלש איכא כפירה והודאה במה שאין כתוב בשטר:

    הא שתים - דליכא משיב אבידה:

    חייב - מדלא תנא פטור בשתים ונימא טעמא משום הילך:

    מודה מקצת הוי - ואינו משיב אבידה דאיערומי קמערים דלחזקיה בנאמן:

    קמ"ל - כיון דבשתים נמי פטור ליכא למימר איערומי מערים אלא משיב אבידה הוי:

    הכי נמי מסתברא - דבשתים פטור:

    ואלא קשיא לרבי חייא - דהא איכא למידק מינה דשתים פטור כדאמרינן דאי ס"ד כו':

    שאני הכא - האי דקאמר שתים פטור טעמא לאו משום הילך אלא דקא מסייע ליה שטרא:

    טענו - חבירו בבי"ד כלים וקרקעות:

    פטור - דלא כפירתו ולא הודאתו מביאתו לידי שבועה:

    חייב - אף על הקרקעות לישבע כדאמרינן לקמן שהנכסים שאין להן אחריות זוקקין את הקרקעות לישבע עליהן משנתחייב לישבע על המטלטלין זוקקין ומגלגלין עמהם שבועת קרקע:

    דומיא דכלים וקרקעות - שכלים שהודה עליהם מונחים לפנינו וא"ל הילך:

    זוקקין - המטלטלין זוקקין הקרקעות לישבע ע"י גלגול:

    תנינא - בקדושין (כו.) הנכסים שאין להן אחריות זוקקין את הנכסים שיש להן אחריות לישבע עליהם:

    הכא עיקר - שמשנה זו שנויה במסכת שבועות (לח.):

    התם - בקדושין:

    אגב גררא נסבה - דאיירי התם נכסים שאין להם אחריות נקנין עם נכסים שיש להן אחריות בכסף בשטר ובחזקה ואגב דאיירי דנקנין עמהם תנא בהדה זוקקין אותן לישבע עליהם:

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    1סלעים, דינרין. מלוה אומר חמש, ולוה אומר שלש. ר"ש בן אלעזר אומר: הואיל והודה מקצת הטענה ישבע. ר"ע אומר: אינו אלא כמשיב אבידה, ופטור.

    2קתני מיהת: רשב"א אומר, הואיל והודה מקצת הטענה ישבע. טעמא דאמר שלש, הא שתים פטור, והאי שטר דקמודי ביה הילך הוא, וש"מ הילך פטור!

    3לא, לעולם אימא לך שתים חייב, והאי דקתני שלש, לאפוקי מדר' עקיבא, דאמר: משיב אבידה הוי ופטור, קמ"ל דמודה מקצת הטענה הוי, וחייב.

    4אי הכי: רשב"א אומר: הואיל והודה מקצת הטענה ישבע, ״אף זה ישבע״ מבעי ליה!

    5אלא: לעולם שתים פטור, והילך חייב. ושאני הכא, דקא מסייע ליה שטרא.

    6אי נמי: משום דהוה ליה שטר שעבוד קרקעות, ואין נשבעין על כפירת שעבוד קרקעות.

    7איכא דמותיב מסיפא, ר"ע אומר: אינו אלא כמשיב אבידה ופטור. טעמא דאמר שלש, הא שתים חייב. והא שטר, (כיון) דקא מודי ביה כהילך״ דמי, ש"מ ״הילך חייב!

    8לא, לעולם אימא לך שתים נמי פטור, והאי דקתני שלש, לאפוקי מדרשב"א דאמר מודה מקצת הטענה הוי וחייב, קמ"ל דמשיב אבידה הוי ופטור.

    9הכי נמי מסתברא. דאי סלקא דעתך: שתים חייב, בשלש היכי פטר ליה ר"ע האי אערומי קא מערים! סבר: אי אמינא שתים בעינא אשתבועי, אימא שלש דאהוי כמשיב אבידה, ואיפטר. אלא ש"מ שתים נמי פטור.

    10אלא קשיא לרבי חייא! שאני התם דקא מסייע ליה שטרא. א"נ משום דהוה ליה שטר שעבוד קרקעות, ואין נשבעין על כפירת שעבוד קרקעות.

    11מתיב מר זוטרא בריה דרב נחמן: טענו כלים וקרקעות, הודה בכלים וכפר בקרקעות, הודה בקרקעות וכפר בכלים פטור. הודה מקצת קרקעות פטור, מקצת כלים חייב.

    12טעמא דכלים וקרקעות, דקרקע לאו בת שבועה היא, הא כלים וכלים דומיא דכלים וקרקעות חייב. היכי דמי? לאו דאמר ליה הילך, וש"מ הילך חייב!

    13לא, לעולם אימא לך כלים וכלים נמי פטור, והא דקתני כלים וקרקעות, הא קמ"ל הודה במקצת כלים חייב אף על הקרקעות.

    14מאי קמ"ל זוקקין? תנינא: זוקקין הנכסים שאין להן אחריות את הנכסים שיש להן אחריות לישבע עליהם.

    15הכא עיקר, התם אגב גררא נסבה.

    Tosafot

    Thus, we can learn from here that [in a case of] “Here, it is yours! [the defendant] is exempt [from taking an oath]. The Gemara is discussing a plaintiff who has a document that says the defendant owes him selaim or dinarim, which are the plural of sela or dinar. At this point in the dialogue the Gemara is deducing that if the defendant admitted that he owes only two selaim or dinarim, he would not need to take a Torah oath. It is only because he admitted owing a third sela or dinar that is not mentioned in the document that he is liable for the oath of one who partially admits the claim against him. The Gemara assumes that the reason one is exempt if he admits to owing only two selaim or dinarim is because that admission is the equivalent of “Here, it is yours!”, since the plaintiff has a document that the defendant owes him two dinarim or selaim. Any debt recorded in a document has an automatic lien on the defendant’s real property. The property is always available and an admission is therefore the equivalent of saying, “Here, it is yours!”. According to the present analysis of the Baraisa, R’ Shimon ben Elazar holds that one is obligated to swear by Torah law when he admits that he owes three dinarim or selaim, but exempt from swearing if he admits owing only two dinarim or selaim. But why? If you ask: [The defendant] should be believed without taking an oath when he admits that he owes three selaim or dinarim, because he has a migo that he could have said he owes only two selaim or dinarim? Since the Gemara deduced that if he would admit owing only two selaim or dinarim, he would be exempt from taking an oath, the rule of migo says that the same should be true when he admits owing three selaim or dinarim? We must find a reason why the defendant could not have as easily claimed b) “I owe two selaim or dinarim”, instead of claim a) “I owe three selaim or dinarim”. We have already learned that a migo is effective only when the defendant is as comfortable with claim b) as he is with claim a). Why is a claim of “Here, it is yours!”, exempt from swearing? The Gemara explained on 4a, that we view the portion that the defendant admitted as if it is already paid. The remainder of the claim is viewed as being independent of the portion the defendant admitted. We are noe dealing bwith ba claim of three selaim or dinarim. This claim is being totally denied by the defendant and in a case of total denial one is exempt from swearing. See Tosfos earlier 3Af, who says that admitting partial liability is not believed without an oath even though he has a migo that he could have denied the claim entirely. This is because one is not brazen enough to totally dent the claim of the plaintiff. The same principle applies in this case as well. We can answer: Since a case of “Here, it is yours!”, is exempt because we view the portion that he admits as if it is has been paid and in regard to the balance of the claim the defendant is denying everything. Therefore, if [the defendant] would admit that he owes only two dinarim or selaim, he would be in total denial of the balance of the claim, and one cannot be so brazen to deny the complete claim of the plaintiff. Claim b) is therefore not as comfortable as claim a) and there is no migo. But R’ Akiva does hold that one who admits owing three selaim or dinarim is exempt because he could have claimed he owes only two, why doesn’t he hold that the defendant is not as comfortable with claim b) as he is with claim a)? But according to R’ Akiva, claim b) is not considered to be brazen, because the document which does not mention a specific number supports [his counter-claim] that he owes only two dinarim or selaim. The minimum of any plural is two. Since the document did not record the number of selaim or dinarim, it is a fair assumption that the amount was two selaim or dinarim.

    Actually, I can tell you [that if the defendant admitted that he owes] two [selaim or dinarim he is] obligated [to swear]. Initially, the Gemara held that we may deduce from the Baraisa that if the defendant admitted owing only two selaim or dinarim he would not need to take an oath. The Gemara suggested that the reason that there is no obligation, is because it is a case of “Here, it is yours!”. The Gemara now counters that it is entirely possible to interpret the Baraisa as holding that an admission of two would also necessitate an oath even though it is a case of “Here, it is yours!”. If so, why did the Baraisa discuss an admission of three selaim or dinarim? That is because R’ Akiva argues only when he admits a third sela or dinar. It is only then that R’ Akiva views the defendant as one who is returning a lost item. When the defendant admits that he owes only two selaim or dinarim, R’ Akiva agrees that there is an oath obligation. But we must now re-examine our understanding of R’ Akiva’s argument that one who admits that he owes three is similar to one who is returning a lost object. Initially, when we believed that an admission of two selaim or dinarim would be free of an oath obligation, it is understandable that one who is admitting a third sela or dinar might be viewed as returning a lost object. After all, he could simply have admitted owing two and he would be free of an oath obligation. Why penalize him for being honest and admitting that he owes a third? However, now that we hold that an admission of two selaim or dinarim obligates an oath, how can we think of an admission of a third sela or dinar as grounds for freeing him from an oath obligation? Had he admitted to owing two selaim or dinarim, he would also be required to swear? Why should he be free from swearing for the admission of one more sela or dinar? Even though when the defendant admits that he owes two, he is obligated to take an oath, R’ Akiva thinks of [the defendant] as one who is returning a lost object and he is exempt from the obligation to swear. For when he says that he owes two selaim or dinarim, he appears to be more reliable than when he admits owing three, since the document supports him. The document, as we have explained, is assumed to mean that the loan was for two selaim or dinarim. When he admits that he owes two, even though he is obligated to swear, he is completely comfortable with his admission, because he is saying exactly what is indicated by the document. Admitting a third sela or dinar is a bit treacherous, since he no longer has the raw interpretation of the document to support him. His only motivation to admit owing the third sela or dinar is his honesty and desire to return a lost object. He should not be penalized for such honesty.

    Actually, [I will tell you that if the defendant admits that he owes] two [selaim or dinarim] he is exempt [from taking an oath for reasons soon to be mentioned, and even so, when a defendant says]: “Here, it is yours!”, he is obligated [to take an oath]. We will soon learn in the Gemara that there are two possible reasons to exempt one who admits owing two selaim or dinarim besides the fact that it is a case of “Here, it is your!”. Those are: a) The document supports his admission of two selaim or dinarim. b) It is an admission to owing a debt that is backed up by a lien on land. Such an admission cannot generate an oath obligation as will be explained later in the Gemara and Tosfos. Our Gemara is now saying that it is true that if the defendant admits owing two selaim or dinarim, he is exempt from an oath obligation, but not because it is a case of “Here, it is yours!”. If that was the only factor, he might be obligated to swear. The reason he is exempt is for one of the other reasons mentioned later. We must now review Tosfos 4Ae, where Tosfos asked that if one is exempt from swearing when he admits owing two, the rule of migo says that he should also be exempt when he admits owing three, because he could have admitted owing only two. Tosfos explained that if the reason for his exemption is because his claim is “Here, it is yours!”, the concept of migo does not apply. The Gemara on 4a says, “Here, it is yours!” separates the portion that he admits from the rest of the plaintiff’s claim. The portion that the defendant admitted is no longer part of the original claim of five selaim or dinarim. Once he admits that he owes two and says “Here, it is yours!”, we now view the plaintiff’s claim as demanding that the defendant owes him only three selaim or dinarim. He is in total denial of that claim of three. Thus, the argument that the defendant has a migo is untenable. His migo is that he might have admitted only two. But if he admitted that, he would be in total denial of the plaintiff’s claim of three, and one is not brazen enough to deny a claim entirely. This rationale is acceptable if the reason for exempting the defendant from swearing is because it is a case of “Here, it is yours!”. However, if the reason the defendant is exempt when admitting that he owes two is one of the above mentioned reasons, a) because the document supports his admission, or b) because his admission is backed by a lien on real property we must have a new explanation of why the defendant should not be free of swearing when he admits owing three selaim or dinarim, since he has a migo that he could have admitted owing only two. If you ask: Since when one says “Here, it is yours!”, he is obligated to swear, because we view the plaintiff’s original claim of five as one claim, when [the defendant] says he owes only two, he is not in total denial of the claim against him, thus, when he says “I owe three” he should be believed with a migo that if he wanted to lie, he would have said that he owes only two. If so, what is the reason of R’ Shimon ben Elazar who says that he is obligated to swear? He should be exempt by the rule of migo. Once again, we must find a reason why the defendant is more comfortable with admitting that he owes three selaim and dinarim than with admitting that he owes only two. We can answer: That [R’ Shimon ben Elazar] holds that he would not willingly claim that he owes only two, which is supported by the document, because it appears that his admission is only because of the document and if there was no document he would deny everything. In order to avoid this appearance, he prefers to admit another sela or dinar. Thus, he has no migo. Migo is viable only when the defendant is as comfortable with the second claim as he is with his first claim.

    We do not swear [when a] denial [is about a loan that] is secured by land. The counterclaim of one who partially admits the claim against him consists of two sections: Section a) The portion of the loan that the defendant admits owing. Section b) The portion of the loan that he denies owing. When b ) the denied portion is secured by land there is no Torah oath obligation as indicated in the heading of this Tosfos: We do not swear for a denial of a loan that is secured by land. Our Gemara is adding that the same is true if a) the portion of the claim he admitted is secured by land. In the Baraisa, where the document testifies to a loan of an unspecified amount of selaim or dinarim, and the plaintiff claims that the loan was for five selaim or dinarim, if the defendant admits that he owes two, he is admitting to a loan that is secured by land, since the amount he admits owing is stated in the document and any documented loan is secured by the real property of the borrower. Thus, our Gemara says that since the section a) is secured by land there is no oath obligation. Why is a loan that is secured by land not subject to an oath? The Mishna in Shavuos 42b tells us that one does not swear when the claim and/or denial is about land. The Gemara elaborates on this: An unpaid custodian need not swear if the property lost or stolen due to his negligence was land. How do we know this? The Rabanan taught in a Baraisa that explains a verse in Shemos 22, 6, which deals with an oath obligation. If a man will give anything to his neighbor, this is a generalization. Cash or vessels, this is a specific item. To guard anything, this is a repeat of the generalization. How is this configuration interpreted? A generalization, a specific and a generalization - we include only that which is very similar to the specific: Just as the specific, cash or vessels, is clearly something that is movable and has inherent value, so too any object that is movable and has inherent value is subject to the laws of swearing. This excludes land, which is not movable. Slaves are excluded because they are comparable to land. Documents are excluded, because they have no inherent value. They only represent the money owed by the borrower, but have no inherent value. See רש"י ד'ה אי נמי to our Gemara, who says that the source for the rule that when a loan is secured by a lien on land, it is not subject to an oath, is derived from the very same source that excludes land from an oath obligation. Now that we have learned that any loan secured by land is not subject to an oath obligation, we must ask some important questions: Isn’t every loan secured by the land of the borrower? If one is unable to pay his debts, the creditor can collect from the real property of the borrower. If so, how can there ever be an oath obligation? Perhaps not every loan is secured by one’s property? This is actually the subject of a dispute in Bava Basra 175b. The Mishna says in Bava Basra 175a: One who lends money to his neighbor and the loan is recorded in a document, may collect the debt from encumbered properties. Even if the property was sold after the loan, there is a lien on the property and the lender may collect the property from the purchaser. If the loan took place before witnesses, but was never recorded in a document, one can collect only from unencumbered property which have not yet been sold by the borrower. If the property was sold, even after the loan, the lender cannot collect that property. The Gemara on 175b explains: Ula said: By Torah law both a loan that was documented and an undocumented loan, can collect from encumbered property. What is the reason? A lien is automatically established on the property by Torah law. Thus when a person borrows money, his property is security for the loan. There is no difference between a written loan or an oral loan. But then for what reason did they say: an oral loan can be collected only from unencumbered property? Because of the loss that would be incurred by the purchasers of real estate, who have no way of knowing that the seller of the property they are buying is heavily in debt. When the loan is recorded in a document, the fanfare surrounding the writing of a document generates publicity that the borrower is in debt and people can be careful about not purchasing encumbered property from the debtor. According to this opinion, by Torah law all debts are automatically secured by one’s land. If you ask: According to the one who says in Perek Get Pashut (Bava Basra 175b) that all loans automatically establish a lien on the debtor’s land by Torah law, why does one swear when he partially admits a plaintiff’s claim, his denial of the balance is a denial about a loan that is secured by land and is not subject to the law of swearing. There should never be an oath for partial admission, yet we know that such an oath is mandated by Torah law. We can answer: That the Torah mandated this oath only when [the creditor] waived the lien, subsequently, he cannot collect from the real property of the debtor. The loan is no longer secured by land. Or, when [the borrower] has no land at all, even encumbered land. It is only in these cases that one would be obligated to swear according to the opinion that all loans automatically establish a lien on the debtor’s property. Tosfos now introduces another Gemara where there is a similar difficulty, but where we cannot say that it is speaking of when the creditor waived the lien. However, according to R’ Yochanan who says in Perek Shavuos Hapikadon (Shavuos 37b) concerning one who denies owing money which is verifiable only by witnesses, but not by a document, and he swore falsely, when it is discovered that he lied, he is liable to bring a karban. There was an obligation for a Torah oath and when one swears falsely when obligated to do so by the Torah, he must offer a karban. If the money he denied owing was verifiable by a document, he is exempt from bringing a karban, because he denied money that was secured by land. Even though he swore falsely that he does not owe the money, since there was no Torah obligation to swear because the loan is secured by land, there is no karban obligation. We see that when there are only witnesses to verify the loan, but no document, he is not considered as denying money secured by land, even though R’ Yochanan holds that a lien is established on one’s property by Torah law. Thus, even a non-documented loan establishes a lien on the debtor’s property. Why should the debtor be obligated to swear and be liable for a karban when he swears falsely while denying a non-documented loan, that too, is secured by land? That is because once the Rabanan removed the lien for an oral loan, because of losses that might be incurred by purchasers of the debtor’s property who have no way of knowing that the borrower is in debt, it is considered as if the creditor waived the lien and the debt is not secured by the borrower’s land. R’ Yochanan is speaking of when [the debtor] has encumbered land, which has already been sold, but he does not have unencumbered land that has not yet been sold. For if he has unencumbered property, even if there are only witnesses on the loan, and he swore falsely, he is exempt from a karban, because the loan was secured by the land that he presently owns. If [the debtor]doesn’t even have encumbered property that was sold, even if there was a document to verify the loan [the debtor] is liable to bring a karban when he swears falsely, since the loan is not secured by land.

    We do not swear for a denial [of funds that are secured by land]. In the Baraisa at the beginning of this page the Gemara quotes the opinions of two Tanaim, R’ Shimon ben Elazar and R’ Akiva. There are texts of our Gemara that quote R’ Yaakov as the second Tana. We will see in the course of learning this Tosfos that there are two valid reasons to believe that the other texts are correct that the second Tana is not R’ Akiva: a) The Gemara will employ the ruling that we do not swear in cases involving funds that are secured by land. Tosfos will present the case to show that R’ Akiva might not concur with this ruling. b) In this Baraisa R’ Akiva is quoted after R’ Shimon ben Elazar who was his disciple. It seems a bit strange that the author of the Baraisa would quote them out of chronological order. The first issue that must be clarified is where R’ Akiva stands on the ruling that we do not swear when the funds in question are secured by land. Can R’ Akliva hold of this ruling? Why not? See previous Tosfos 4Bc page 1, 2 & 3, where we quoted the Gemara in Shavuous 42b, where we derive that one does not swear for an admission and denial of funds that are secured by land. The system used by the Baraisa there for this derivation is called כלל פרט וכלל loosely translated, this means that we view the verse as speaking of a generalization, a specific item and repeating a generalization. Since the specific items that are mentioned in the verse, vessels and cash, have the characteristics that they are movable and have inherent value, we say that the oath obligation is only for similar items, but not for land which is immovable or for documents that do not have any inherent value. There is another way of interpreting the Torah. Instead of viewing the more expansive word as a generalization meant to expand somewhat on the specific item, but only in a limited fashion, there is a system called ריבויי, מיעוט וריבויי - an expansive term, a restrictive term and finally another expansive term. The very same words quoted in the Baraisa on Shavuos 42b can be expounded differently: כלל פרט וכלל כי יתן -- generalization כסף או כלים -- specific לשמור -- generalization ריבויי מיעוט וריבויי כי יתן -- expansive כסף או כלים -- restrictive לשמור -- expansive The net result is that in the generalization etc. system, only such items that are very similar to the specific items are included in the ruling. In the expansive etc. system, all items that share some similarity with the restricting item are included. Thus the same verse when explained with the expansive system will include many more items than if expounded by the generalization system. So too, in the explanation of the verse under discussion, those who usually follow the expansive etc. system, will include land in the list of items for which one is obligated to swear. It is only in the generalization etc. system, that land is excluded. Tosfos will demonstrate from other sources that R’ Akiva holds we generally expound the Torah with the expansive etc. system. Accordingly, he should hold that an oath is required for matters pertaining to land. But our Gemara has used the rule of not swearing for an admission or denial for loans that are secured by land to explain R’ Akiva’s position. R’ Akiva should however hold that one does swear even when the loans are secured by land. It would be logical to say that the second Tana is R’ Yaakov and this problem would be solved. The Gemara in Shavuos 4b is discussing R’ Akiva’s opinion in regard to liability for swearing falsely about something that happened in the past. The Gemara explains: What is the reason that R’ Akiva holds one liable for swearing falsely about something that happened in the past? Because he expounds the Torah with the system of expansive and restrictive etc. The Gemara in Bava Kama 117b quotes a dispute between R’ Eliezer and the Rabanan in regard to items that are subject to various laws of theft: R’ Eliezer expounds the Torah with the expansive restrictive system. What is included? All items are included and subject to the rules of theft. What is excluded? Documents are excluded. The Rabanan expound the Torah with the generalization and specific system. Land is excluded because it is immovable. Slaves are excluded because they are equated to land. Documents are excluded, for even though they are movable, they are not inherently valuable. They only represent a debt, but are intrinsically worthless. It is clear that if we use the expansive restrictive system, we include land and exclude only documents. It is only if we use the generalization system that land is excluded. According to the manuscripts whose text in our Baraisa is R’ Akiva as it is in our text, instead of R’ Yaakov as others suggest, we cannot ask: But R’ Akiva expounds the Torah with the expansive restrictive system in the first Perek of Shavuous (4b) and in Perek Shelosha Minim (Nazir 35a), and one who expounds the Torah with the expansive restrictive etc. system, does not exclude land from an oath obligation, but only documents, as it is evident in Perek Hagozel the latter, (Bava Kama 117b), and if so, how can [the Gemara] here say that according to R’ Akiva we do not swear for denial of funds secured by land? It seems that the author of this position is not R’ Akiva. Tosfos will suggest that there is some missing information that the Gemara knows about, but is unidentified. Obviously, an explanation such as this requires support, which Tosfos needs to present. We can answer: That [R’ Akiva] has some exclusion in some verse to exclude land from an oath obligation. It is true that the expansive restrictive system excludes only swearing about documents, but there is some other source to exclude swearing about land. Even though, we are not presently aware of what that exclusion is, Tosfos will now demonstrate that this unidentified exclusion must exist according to R’ Meir. If we know that such an unidentified exclusion exists according to R’ Meir, we can assume that R’ Akiva also uses that exclusion to exclude land. There is no need to conclude that our Baraisa is not the opinion of R’ Akiva. Generally speaking slaves are governed by the same rules as land. In regard to swearing according to R’ Meir there is a difference, one swears on matters involving slaves, but not on matters involving land. Why are the laws of swearing different than all other areas of Torah law? Tosfos suggests that R’ Meir holds like R’ Akiva who expounds the Torah with the expansive restrictive system, thus only a) documents are excluded from this verse. There must be a special exclusion b) to exclude land from an oath obligation, which cannot be applied to slaves. Thus, there is an oath obligation for slaves, but not for land. That special (unknown) exclusion can also be used to exclude land according to R’ Akiva, who also expounds the Torah with the expansive restrictive system. So too, we are compelled to say later in Perek Hashoel (100b) according to R’ Meir, who holds that we do swear about claims involving slaves, but not about claims involving land, even though slaves are usually equated to land according to all opinions and it should follow that just as we do not swear about land, we should also not swear about slaves. Where do we see that slaves are equated to land? For it is for this reason, that slaves are equated to land, that ownership of a slave can be transferred by using a coin to effect the transfer, according to all opinions, in the first Perek of Kidushin (22b). The Gemara in Kidushin 22b is discussing the acts of acquisition that are effective for acquiring slaves: Mishna: A Canaanite slave is acquired by coin, document and proprietary acts. Gemara: How do we know this? It is written in Vayikra 25, 46, And you shall hold them as a heritage for your children after you to inherit as a possession. The Torah equates [slaves] to an inherited field, just as an inherited field is acquired by coin, document and proprietary acts, so to a Canaanite slave is acquired by coin, document and proprietary acts. If so, why does R’ Meir hold that we do swear about slaves and not about land? Rather, it must be that R’ Meir expounds the Torah with the system of expansive and exclusive a) to exclude swearing about cases involving documents, and he has some other exclusion, unknown to us, b) to exclude swearing in cases involving land, and with that unknown exclusion we cannot exclude slaves even though they are usually equated with land, The Gemara in Bava Kama 63a is discussing the verse in Shemos 22, and concludes that this verse must be interpreted with the expansive restrictive system. The Gemara then informs us that special exclusions are needed for documents, land and slaves. The exclusion for land does not automatically exclude slaves as well. Now that you say that in this verse the word ‘כל - all’, is an expansive, why do we need all these specific items? What is their function in the expounding of the verse? The Gemara answers: One is to exclude land. One is to exclude slaves, and one is to exclude documents. We see that in this system one exclusion cannot exclude both land and slaves, despite the verse that equates them insofar as Kidushin is concerned. as is evident in Merubah (Bava Kama 63a), that the one who expounds the Torah with the system of expansive and exclusive needs two exclusions to exclude both land and slaves from an oath obligation. Tosfos has reconciled our Gemara which says that according to R’ Akiva, one does not swear about funds that are secured by land and the Gemara that says R’ Akiva expounds the Torah with the expansive restrictive system. In our introduction we mentioned that there is also a chronoligical question which indicates that the second opinion in the Baraisa is not R’ Akiva. Tosfos will now address this second issue. Even though R’ Shimon ben Elazar was a disciple of R’ Akiva, we need not be concerned with the fact that [R’ Shimon ben Elazar] argues with [R’ Akiva] and is mentioned in the Baraisa before [R’ Akiva]. For we find a similar situation below (7a) in regard to two litigants who are holding a document, where Rebbe is mentioned first in the Baraisa and he argues with Raban Shimon ben Gamliel who was his father. Tosfos acknowledges that there are those who find all his explanation somewhat awkward and follow a different text. There are manuscripts that have ion their text here R’ Yaakov instead of R’ Akiva. This of course solves both problems that we have with our text.

    But [if the defendant admits owing] vessels and [denies owing other vessels], he is obligated [to swear]. Our Gemara is attempting to prove that when a defendant admits part of the claim against him, and says ‘Here, it is yours!’ he is obligated to swear. The Gemara analyzes a statement of a Mishna in Maseches Shavuos 38b, where the Mishna says: If the defendant admitted owing land but denied owing vessels, he is exempt from swearing. The reason is because the admission and denial must both be about movable objects and not about land. When the admission is about land, even though the denial is about vessels there is no oath obligation. Our Gemara suggests that the reason the defendant is exempt from swearing even though he admitted owing land is strictly because land is excluded from an oath obligation as we have already learned. However, in a situation where both the admission and denial are vessels, even though the vessels the defendant admitted owing have the same characteristics as land, there would be an oath obligation. Now when one admits that he owes land, it is inherently an admission of ‘Here, it is yours!’, because the land is always available. It need not be collected as cash or vessels need to be collected. If our analysis is correct, we may conclude that even when the vessels one admits owing are a situation of ‘Here, it is yours!’, there is also an oath obligation. For the reason one is exempt when his admission is for land is because of the special exemption of land, but vessels that have the very same characteristics as land do generate an oath obligation. In short we may conclude that vessels which are = to land do generate an oath obligation. But which vessels are equal to land? When the defendant says: ‘Here, it is yours!’. Our Gemara eventually rejects this understanding of the Mishna in Shavuos 38b. Tosfos however, suggests that there is a simpler way to deflect the Gemara’s question. Our Gemara assumes that an admission about land is always by definition one of ‘Here, it is yours!’. This argues Tosfos is not necessarily true. There are situations where one may admit that he owes land, but it is not a case of ‘Here, it is yours!’. [The Gemara] could have answered, that the Mishna in Shavuos 38b is speaking of when [the defendant] dug pits, ditches and caverns, as the Gemara soon says on 5a. Although the defendant is admitting that he owes the plaintiff land, since the land has been damaged and must be restored to its original condition, this is not a case of ‘Here, it is yours!’ Similarly, if the admission was about vessels in a non-‘Here, it is yours!’ situation there would be an oath obligation.

    [If] he admitted [owing] some [of the] vessels he is obligated [to swear]. The Mishna in Shavuos 38b is teaching us that when both the denial and the admission are about movable objects, there is an oath obligation. If you ask: [The defendant] should be believed without an oath, because he has a migo, that if he wanted to lie he could have denied owing vessels entirely and he would have admitted owing some of the land? Assuming that the defendant does not have the audacity to deny everything as we learned earlier on 3a and 3b, he did not have to admit that he owes some of the vessels, which generates an oath obligation, he could have just as easily admitted owing some of the land. This too, would satisfy his need to admit something and not deny the claim against him entirely and he would be exempt from swearing. We can answer: Perhaps he wants the land more than the vessels. Even though the value is the same, he would rather admit owing some of the vessels, so that he can retain the land. Since, the second claim does not accomplish his needs as does the first claim, he has no migo.

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    מיתיבי סלעין דינרים וכו' - פי' שטר שכתוב בו סתם פלוני חייב לפלוני סלעים או דינרין. מלוה אמר ה' סלעים חייב לי ולוה אמר ג' ר' שמעון בן אלעזר אומר הואיל והודה מקצת הטענה ישבע. ודייקי' טעמא דהודה בג' הא הודה בב' פטור מאי טעמא דשטר כיון דמודה במלוה בשטר כי הילך דמי דקיימא לן מלוה בשטר תורתו כקרקע והמודה בקרקע הילך הוא ודייקי' דבשתים פטור קשיא לר' חייא. ופריק לא ואפילו הודה בשתים חייב והאי דקתני ג' לאפוקי מדר' עקיבא דאמר הודאתו בשלישית משיב אבידה הוי מיגו דאי בעי אמר תרתי כדכתיב בשטר סלעים ואמר ג' משיב אבידה הוא ופטור משבועה.

    ואקשי' אי הכי דר' שמעון אפילו בשתים מחייב והוא הדין לג' אף זה חייב לישבע היה לו לומר.

    ופרקי' לעולם שתים פטור ושאני הכא משום דמסייע ליה דכתיב בה סלעין וסתם סלעין שתים הן.

    אי נמי משום דהוי שטר שיעבוד קרקעות ואין נשבעין על כפירת שעבוד קרקעות. פי' נמצא המלוה טוענו ה' סלעין ועדי השטר מעידין שחייב לו סלעים לא פחות משתים לדברי ר' חייא דאמר מנה לי בידך והלה אומר אין לך בידי כלום ועדים מעידים אותן נ' אותן נ' נותן לו ונשבע על השאר וכל שכן בשמודה לו במקצת היה מן הדין לחייבו שבועה גם בשמודה בשתים ואמר לך ר' חייא כי קאמינא במלוה על פה אבל במלוה בשטר דשעבודיה על הקרקע כאילו קרקע בה' סלעין הוא דטעין ומודה לו במקצת מן הקרקע ובשאר כופר בו. ותנן אין נשבעין על הקרקעות וכשם שאם יטען עליו שדה זו בידך שלי הוא והלה כופר בו אין חייב שבועה עליה כך הטוען על חבירו בשעבוד קרקעות והלה כופר בו אין חייב שבועה על כפירתו. ור' שמעון סבר הא דטעין עליה בה' סלעין תרתי מינהון בשטרא ותלת מינהון על פה כפר בתלת פטור כדתנן מנה לי בידך והלה אומר אין לך בידי כלום פטור. הודה אחת מן השלש חייב. ומותבינן תוב מדברי ר' עקיבא דפטר בג' וכל שכן בב' והנה דפריש להו שטרא הילך הוא וקתני פטור קשיא לרבי חייא. ופריק שאני הכא דקא מסייע ליה שטרא. אי נמי משום דהוי ליה שטר שעבוד קרקעות כו'. כדפרשינן לזה לעילא. ש"מ דדברי הכל הודה בשתים פטור כי פליגי בשמודה בג'.

    ר' עקיבא סבר מיגו דאי בעי אמר שתים ואמר ג' משיב אבידה הוי ופטור דכי אמרה תורה כי הוא זה דשמעינן מיניה מודה מקצת הטענה חייב הא פריש רבה טעמא דקרא דאמר מפני מה אמרה תורה מודה מקצת הטענה ישבע חזקה אין אדם מעיז פניו בפני בעל חובו והאי בכוליה בעי דליכפריה וכו' והאי כיון דאית ליה עליה שטרא לא יכול לכפור בכל לית עליה הדין דינא הלכך פטור הוא. ור' שמעון סבר לא שנא אלא הרי הוא ככל טענתא דעלמא הכופר בכל פטור והמודה במקצת חייב. תוב אקשינן מהא טענו כלים וקרקעות וכו'. ופשוטה היא.

    פי' הכא עיקר התם אגב גררא נסבה - הכא בשבועות דקתני הודה במקצת כלים מיגו דנתחייב שבועה בכלים נשבע גם על הקרקע בזקיקה זה מקום עיקרו. והתם בקידושין פ"א דקתני זוקקין את הנכסים שיש להם אחריות לישבע עליהם [אגב] גררא נסבה.

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