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    Bava Kamma 2b

    Chapter 1 - Arba'ah Avot

    גם: בבא קמא דף ב׳ ע״ב, פרק א׳ ארבעה אבות

    English translation - Bava Kamma 2b

    Translation: William Davidson Edition - English. Read alongside the Aramaic below; numbers match the passages of the daf.

    1and one who is impure with impurity imparted by a human corpse. A person, a vessel, or food that is rendered impure through contact with an item classified as a primary category of ritual impurity is characterized as a subcategory. In that domain, their subcategories are dissimilar to them, as any person or item classified as a primary category of ritual impurity impurifies a person and impurifies any vessels with which it comes into contact, while a person or item classified as a subcategory of ritual impurity impurifies food or drink, but does not impurify a person or vessels.

    2After determining that there are instances where the legal status of subcategories is like that of primary categories, e.g., Shabbat, and there are instances where the legal status of subcategories is dissimilar to that of primary categories, e.g., ritual impurity, the Gemara asks: Here, with regard to the laws of damages, what is the relationship between the primary categories and their subcategories? Rav Pappa said: There are, among the primary categories of damage, some whose subcategories are similar to them, and there are, among them, some whose subcategories are dissimilar to them.

    3§ Seeking to clarify Rav Pappa’s statement, the Gemara cites a baraita that delineates the primary categories of damage. The Sages taught in a baraita : Three primary categories of damage were stated in the Torah with regard to an ox. An ox causes damage in three ways, and each is classified as a distinct primary category of damage represented by a part of the body of the ox: There is the category of Goring [ keren ], literally, horn. This is referring to an ox goring a person or an animal and causing damage. And there is the category of Eating [ shen ], literally, tooth. This is referring to one’s ox causing damage by consuming another person’s produce. And there is the category of Trampling [ regel ], literally, foot. This is referring to an ox trampling another person’s belongings and causing damage. These are classified as primary categories because they are mentioned explicitly in the Torah.

    4The Gemara elaborates: From where do we derive the primary category of Goring? The source is as the Sages taught in a baraita : The verse states: “And if an ox gores a man or a woman” (Exodus 21:28); and goring is performed only with a horn, as it is stated: “And Zedekiah, son of Chenaanah, made himself horns of iron, and said: So says the Lord: With these shall you gore the Arameans, until they are consumed” (I Kings 22:11). And the verse also states: “His firstborn bull, majesty is his, and his horns are the horns of the wild ox; with them he shall gore the nations” (Deuteronomy 33:17).

    5The Gemara interrupts its citation of the baraita and asks: What is the purpose of citing the additional verse introduced with the term: And the verse also states? The Gemara answers: And if you would say that the first verse cited is not a legitimate source as it is a verse from the Prophets, and we do not derive Torah matters from the texts of the tradition, i.e., Prophets and Writings, come and hear proof from the Torah: “His firstborn bull, majesty is his.”

    6The Gemara rejects the possibility that the reason a second verse was cited is that the primary category of Goring cannot be derived from a verse in the Prophets: But is this a halakhic derivation? It is a mere disclosure of the matter, that goring is performed with a horn. A verse in the Prophets can certainly serve as a source for that disclosure.

    7Rather, the reason the baraita cites a second verse is lest you say, based on the first verse, that when the Merciful One distinguishes between liability for damage caused by an innocuous ox, for which the owner is liable to pay half of the damages for the first three times that it gores, and liability for damage caused by a forewarned ox, which already gored three times and whose owner was cautioned to prevent the ox from goring, for which he is liable to pay the full damages, that statement applies only to damage caused with a detached horn, like the horn of Zedekiah described in the verse, e.g., if an animal held a detached horn in its mouth and caused damage with it; but for damage that an ox caused with a horn attached to its head, say that in all cases the legal status of the ox is that of a forewarned ox and its owner is liable to pay for all of the damage.

    8Therefore, the baraita says: Come and hear a proof from another verse: “His firstborn bull, majesty is his, and his horns are the horns of the wild ox; with them he shall gore the nations,” where the reference is to a horn attached to the ox’s head. Evidently, when an ox gores with its own horns there is a distinction between an innocuous ox and a forewarned ox.

    9The Gemara resumes its citation of the baraita : What is a subcategory of Goring? It includes any action that an ox performs with its body with the objective of inflicting damage: Pushing [ negifa ], biting, crouching upon items with the objective of inflicting damage, and kicking.

    10The Gemara asks: What is different about goring that it is characterized as a primary category of damage, as it is written explicitly in the verse: “And if an ox gores a man or a woman” (Exodus 21:28); accordingly, negifa should also be characterized as a primary category, as it is written: “If one man’s ox hurts [ yiggof ] the ox of another” (Exodus 21:35)? The Gemara answers: This negifa mentioned in the verse, is actually a reference to goring, as it is taught in a baraita that the verses states: “And if one man’s ox hurts [ yiggof ] the ox of another…or if it is known that the ox was a goring ox in time past” (Exodus 21:35–36). The verse began its description of the case with the term negifa and it concluded with the term goring to say to you that in this context the two terms describe the same action: This action is negifa and this same action is goring.

    11The Gemara asks: If the two terms are interchangeable, what is different with regard to an ox goring a person that it is written: “And if an ox gores a man or a woman” (Exodus 21:28), and what is different with regard to an ox goring an animal that it is written: “If one man’s ox hurts [ yiggof ] the ox of another” (Exodus 21:35)?

    12The Gemara explains: With regard to a person, who has the ingenuity to defend himself and is not easily injured, it is written: “If an ox gores,” a term indicating an attack of greater force. With regard to an animal, which does not have the ingenuity to defend itself and is more easily injured, it is written: “If an ox hurts [ yiggof ],” a term indicating an attack of lesser force. The term yiggof is related to the term magefa , meaning plague. The Torah employs that term with regard to the goring of an animal to indicate that when an animal is gored, regardless of the force of the blow, it will likely result in its death.

    13And the Torah’s use of these terms teaches us a matter in passing: Because the effort required for the ox to gore a person to death is greater than the effort required for the ox to gore an animal to death, the halakha is that an ox that is forewarned with regard to goring a person is also forewarned with regard to an animal. But an ox that is forewarned with regard to an animal is not forewarned with regard to a person.

    14The Gemara questions the classification in the baraita of biting, crouching, and kicking as subcategories of Goring: Isn’t biting a subcategory of Eating, as the animal both eats and bites with its teeth? The Gemara answers: No, in cases included in the primary category of Eating, there is pleasure for the animal in the course of its causing damage. In this case of damage caused by biting, there is no intrinsic pleasure for the animal in the course of the damage that it causes, as when the ox bites forcefully, the exclusive objective of the action is to cause damage.

    15The Gemara asks: Aren’t crouching upon items and kicking items in order to damage them each a subcategory of Trampling, as the animal crouches by bending its legs and kicks with its feet? The Gemara answers: No, in cases included in the primary category of Trampling, the damage is commonplace, as it is caused in the course of the animal’s walking; in these cases of crouching and kicking, the damage is not commonplace, as animals do not typically kick or crouch upon utensils.

    16After citing the subcategories listed in the baraita , the Gemara resumes its analysis of the statement of Rav Pappa: But with regard to the statement that Rav Pappa said: There are among them some whose subcategories are dissimilar to them, to which primary category was Rav Pappa referring?

    17If we say that his reference was to these subcategories of Goring, what is different about Goring that defines it as a unique primary category? What is different is that the objective of the ox’s action is to cause damage, and the ox is your property, and responsibility for its safeguarding, to prevent it from causing damage, is incumbent upon you, its owner. In these subcategories of Goring, i.e., pushing [ negifa ], biting, crouching, and kicking, as well, the objective of the oxen’s actions is to cause damage, and the oxen are your property, and responsibility for their safeguarding, to prevent your oxen from causing damage, is incumbent upon you.

    18Rather, it is apparent that the status of a subcategory of Goring is like that of the primary category of Goring, and when Rav Pappa says: There are among them some whose subcategories are dissimilar to them, he was referring to Eating and Trampling.

    19The Gemara asks: Where are Eating and Trampling written in the Torah that led them to be classified as primary categories? The Gemara answers: The source is as the Sages taught in a baraita : The verse states: “If a man causes a field or vineyard to be eaten, and he sends forth his animal, and it consumed in the field of another” (Exodus 22:4). The two parts of the verse are referring to different categories: “And he sends forth,” this is a reference to the primary category of Trampling, as sending forth results in the animal trampling another’s produce and damaging it, and likewise it states: “Happy are you that sow beside all waters that send forth the feet of the ox and the donkey” (Isaiah 32:20). Clearly the term “send forth” is a reference to trampling by the feet of the animal.

    20“And it consumed,” this is a reference to the primary category of Eating, and likewise it states: “And I will utterly sweep away the house of Jeroboam, as one consumes with

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    And one who is impure by a corpse - one who touches a corpse is a primary source of impurity. The corpse itself, however, is a super-primary source of impurity; one who touches it becomes a primary source of impurity who can then impurify people and vessels. The verse states: "Whatever that impure person touches shall be impure" [Numbers 19:22]; this verse is discussing one who is impure by a corpse, and implies that he can impurify people, since it states "and the person who touches..." [Numbers 19:22]

    Here what - the subcategories of Shabbat [labors] are equivalent to the primary categories; the subcategories of impurity are not equivalent to the primary categories. Here, what [is the relationship to] the subcategories of damages? Do we say that the subcategories are equivalent, and there is no difference between a primary category and a subcategory, in that in each case the one who causes damage must pay, or perhaps not?

    There are among, etc - - later on in our discussion of this topic [the gemara] will explain the statement of Rav Pappa.

    The Horn - for goring.

    The Tooth - for eating.

    The Foot - trampling resulting in breaking vessels.

    With these shall you gore the Arameans / with them he shall gore the nations - so we see that goring is done with the horn.

    Texts of the tradition - the Prophets and the Writings.

    But is this a derivation - this is meant as a question -- but we don't derive either liability or exemption from texts of the tradition. Rather, it is a disclosure of the matter -- that anywhere "goring" is written it means with a horn.

    Rather - for the following reason it was necessary to state [the additional proof-texts]: one might have said that Scripture only differentiates between an innocuous ox and a forewarned ox -- in that regarding an innocuous ox it is written "they shall divide its price" [Exodus 21:35] and regarding a forewarned one it is written "that person must restore ox for ox" [Exodus 21:36], which means that he must pay full damages -- that refers only to a case where a detached horn was used; if, for example, the animal held the horn between its teeth and gored with it. [Only] in that case would the innocuous ox not pay whole damages, because this is not its usual behavior, and it was not the owners' responsibility to protect against such a thing.

    But with an attached horn - since this is its normal manner.

    Say that in all cases it is forewarned - even at the outset [before it had ever done such a thing] and he would have to pay full damages.

    Come and hear - the term "goring" is written regarding "the horns of the wild ox" [Deuteronomy 33:17] -- so we see that [goring with] an attached [horn] is also called goring. Thus with any unspecified goring [whether with an attached or detached horn], Scripture differentiates between the Horn of an innocuous [ox] and the horn of a forewarned one.

    Pushing - where it pushes with its body and damages intentionally.

    Crouching - where it sees vessels along the way and goes and crouches upon them in order to break them.

    Kicking - where it kicks with its legs and breaks the vessels. These are the subcategories of the Horn [Goring], in that their intention is to damage, just as with Goring; and there is no pleasure gained by the one who damages, just as with Goring; and these kinds of damages do not typically take place, thus also similar to Goring. If the court has not warned against this three times, one does not pay full damages.

    What is different about goring that it is characterized as a primary category, as it is written “And if an ox gores"; negifa also, as it is written "If one man's ox hurts the ox of another" - since negifa is also written [explicitly in a verse], it should also be considered a primary category.

    This negifa is goring - and not pushing with the body.

    The verse began with negifa - "If one man’s ox hurts [ yiggof ] the ox of another." [Exodus 21:35].

    And concluded with goring - "or if it is known that the ox was a goring ox" [Exodus 21:36]. It is not written that "the ox was in the habit of hurting" but rather "goring".

    To say to you - that the negifa [in this verse] is not pushing with the body but rather goring with the horn. It is not possible to say [alternatively] that in fact negifa is the primary category and "goring" is negifa meaning pushing with the body, since we have found [based on the verses cited earlier] that goring is done with the horn.

    With regard to a person - when the ox gores a person, it is written "When an ox gores a man" [Exodus 21:28] and when an ox gores an ox it is written "When any party’s ox injures a neighbor’s ox." [Exodus 21:35]

    A person, who has ingenuity - he has the understanding as to how to protect his body.

    It is written "if it gores" - since the ox certainly had the intention to cause harm, and attacked him with force. But negifa implies that it found it standing and pushed it with its horns. Another interpretation: he has [the protection of] fortune, and it is not easy to kill him with negifa -- that is, with a slight pushing of the horn [alone] -- but rather [only] with goring, with force and intention and with the thrusting of the horn into the body.

    And Scripture teaches us a matter in passing - since it apportions the term "goring" to [where the victim is] a person and " negifa " to [where the victim is] an animal, implying that it is easier [for the ox] to kill an animal than to kill a person. This implies that an ox that was forewarned due to having killed an animal three times is not considered forewarned regarding [killing] people. Thus if it gored a person to death, it is judged as an innocuous ox, and [the owner] does not pay the ransom. Regarding an innocuous one who kills a person, it is written "the ox shall be stoned... but the owner of the ox is not to be punished" [Exodus 21:28]. Regarding a forewarned one it is written "its owner, too, shall be put to death" [Exodus 21:29]. "Death" there means monetary compensation, in that he must pay the ransom -- the value of the one who was killed -- to his heirs; not actual death, as it is stated in the first chapter of Sanhedrin: You execute him for his act of murder, but you do not execute him for his ox’s act of murder [Sanhedrin 15b:5]. However, [an ox] that is forewarned regarding [killing] people is considered forewarned with respect to animals. It is possible to [have a case of an ox that is] forewarned with respect to killing people, if it gored three times before being brought to court -- thus it had not been stoned immediately upon having killed the first [person].

    Crouching.. - is a subcategory of Foot [Trampling] - since it crouches by way of folding its legs.

    Trampling is commonplace damage - any time it walks it will trample anything under its feet.

    These, the damage is not commonplace - therefore they are subcategories of Horn [Goring] in that theirs is not a commonplace type of damage, and imparts no pleasure to the one who damages; thus they pay half-damages as with Goring.

    What is different about Goring - in that he is liable since its intention was to do damage, etc.

    "And he sends forth" - his livestock to graze [Exodus 22:4].

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    בבא קמא ב עמוד ב

    1וטמא מת. תולדותיהן לאו כיוצא בהן; דאילו אב מטמא אדם וכלים, ואילו תולדות אוכלין ומשקין מטמא, אדם וכלים לא מטמא.

    2הכא מאי? אמר רב פפא: יש מהן כיוצא בהן, ויש מהן לאו כיוצא בהן.

    Baraita

    3ת"ר ג' אבות נאמרו בשור הקרן, והשן, והרגל.

    4קרן מנלן? דת"ר (שמות כא, כח) ״כי יגח״ אין נגיחה אלא בקרן שנאמר ״(מלכים א כב״, יא) ויעש לו צדקיה בן כנענה קרני ברזל ויאמר כה אמר ה' באלה תנגח את ארם וגו'. ואומר (דברים לג, יז) בכור שורו הדר לו וקרני ראם קרניו בהם עמים ינגח׃

    5מאי ואומר וכי תימא דברי תורה מדברי קבלה לא ילפינן ת"ש בכור שורו הדר לו׃

    6והאי מילף הוא גילוי מילתא בעלמא הוא דנגיחה בקרן הוא׃

    7אלא מהו דתימא כי פליג רחמנא בין תם למועד ה"מ בתלושה אבל במחוברת אימא כולה מועדת היא׃

    8ת"ש בכור שורו הדר לו וגו'׃

    9תולדה דקרן מאי היא נגיפה נשיכה רביצה ובעיטה׃

    10מאי שנא נגיחה דקרי לה אב דכתיב ״כי יגח נגיפה נמי כתיב (שמות כא״, לה) כי יגוף האי נגיפה נגיחה היא דתניא פתח בנגיפה וסיים בנגיחה לומר לך זו היא נגיפה זו היא נגיחה׃

    11מאי שנא גבי אדם דכתיב ״כי יגח ומאי שנא גבי בהמה דכתיב כי יגוף״׃

    12אדם דאית ליה מזלא כתיב ״כי יגח בהמה דלית לה מזלא כתיב כי יגוף״׃

    13ומלתא אגב אורחיה קמ"ל דמועד לאדם הוי מועד לבהמה ומועד לבהמה לא הוי מועד לאדם׃

    14נשיכה תולדה דשן היא לא שן יש הנאה להזיקה הא אין הנאה להזיקה׃

    15רביצה ובעיטה תולדה דרגל היא לא רגל הזיקה מצוי הני אין הזיקן מצוי׃

    16אלא תולדותיהן לאו כיוצא בהן דאמר רב פפא אהייא׃

    17אילימא אהני מאי שנא קרן דכוונתו להזיק וממונך ושמירתו עליך הני נמי כוונתן להזיק וממונך ושמירתן עליך׃

    18אלא תולדה דקרן כקרן וכי קאמר רב פפא אשן ורגל׃

    19שן ורגל היכא כתיב״י דתניא (שמות כב״, ד) ושלח זה הרגל וכן הוא אומר: (ישעיהו לב, כ) משלחי רגל השור והחמור׃

    20ובער זו השן וכן הוא אומר (מלכים א יד, י) כאשר יבער׃

    Tosafot

    For concerning the primary category [of ritual impurity], it impurifies a person and vessels. For that expression implies that the person becomes tomay and causes his clothing to become tomay as he is wearing them. This is not true in the case of a dead rodent, semen and one who has been in contact with a corpse. They cause a person to become tomay, he becomes a Rishon, a first level of tumoh, but the clothes he is wearing do not become tomay. Since the wearer is only a Rishon and not an av, his clothing which are treated as vessels do not become tomay. As the Gemara says vessels (and clothing) can only become tomay from an av. The Gemara has stated that an av of tumoh does not make its toldoh as itself. The toldoh has a reduced level of tumoh. It can only cause tumoh to foodstuff, but not to people and vessels. Although this is generally true for an av coming in contact with a person and with most utensils, there is an area where this is not true and the utensil will have a degree of tumoh as great as the av. And if you ask: There is a tomay mais, a person who came in contact with a corpse, who causes a metal vessel to have the same degree of tumoh as the tomay mais himself, for we have a rule that the sword is the same level of tumoh as the corpse. We see that there is a toldoh of tumoh which has the same level of tumoh as the av. Tosafot points out that although the statement is generally true, there still is a difference between a tomay mais and the metal vessel with which it comes in contact. And we can answer: the metal vessel is still not entirely like the tomay mais, because that metal vessel will not cause a second metal vessel to become tomay, as the tomay mais does, as Rabbeinu Tam deduces at the beginning of Masechet Oholos.

    The Sages taught - three primary categories. The Gemara asked a question: do the derivatives of damagers have the same laws as the avos? Now, the Gemara introduces a lengthy Braita that explains all the avos of shor and how they are derived. It seems as if the Gemara forgot to answer the question. Tosafot explains: The Gemara interrupted its flow by citing this Braita, so that eventually he can explain, using this Braita as a basis, which are their toldos that are not like the avos, of which Rav Papa spoke.

    But with [a horn] attached, say [that in] all [cases the legal status] is [that of] a forewarned [ox]. If we only had a verse that spoke of an unattached horn, we would say that the difference of tam and muad applies only to an unattached horn, but when goring with an attached keren, I would say it is totally, even the first time, muad. Tosafot tells us the practical difference that would result from what I might have thought: That one must pay full payment even the first time. This requires some explanation. At this point in the Gemara full payment for an attached keren is not mentioned in the Torah. That I might have thought that there is reason to pay in full, is not an adequate reason to require full payment. There must be some means of deriving a new rule, to require a payment that is not mentioned in the Torah. As we have already seen in Tosafot (2a ד"ה ולא) the Gemara later (5b) discusses the possibility of learning one av from the other. It is that Gemara that Tosafot uses to search for a source for the new ruling that an attached keren must make full payment. The Gemara there concludes that all of the avos could be known, had the Torah only written bor and one other av. The Gemara there goes on to explain why the Torah did in fact write all of the Avos. There is one exception, keren, which may not be able to be derived from bor and one of the others. The Gemara says that the derivation of keren depends on a dispute among the amoraim. One holds that we could not learn keren from the other avos because all the others are initially muadim, it is usual for them to damage, whereas keren is not. It is therefore less likely to be liable, and we therefore cannot derive keren from the others. There is a second opinion there, that keren is more likely to be liable than the other avos, because of all the avos, it is the only one that harms intentionally. This amoro views the characteristics of keren as more likely to be liable than the others, so the others can be used as a source for keren. Tosafot will now show us how our Gemara which says that I would think that an attached keren should initially be a muad should be viewed in light of the Gemara on (5b). And if you ask: From where would we derive that an attached keren makes full payment? Tosafot suggests two possible sources for the attached keren, first: if from the unattached keren by a kal v’chomer and say that if the unattached keren is liable then the attached keren should certainly be liable? Then it should be sufficient to give it the rule of an unattached keren and it should only pay half. The second possible source for an attached keren: If you want to learn attached keren from the other avos, as the Gemara says on (5b) that all the avos could be derived from bor and one of the others, that makes sense according to the one who says that keren is stronger than the other avos and is more likely to be liable, because keren has intent to destroy, and even keren can be derived from the other avos, as Rabbeinu Tam has explained that the opinion referred to on (5b) as saying keren is stronger, is actually the one who is mentioned later on (15a) as the one who holds that half payment of keren is a financial obligation, for he holds that ordinary oxen are not assumed to be guarded. That means that we cannot assume that they will not gore others and that there is no need to take measures to prevent them from goring. Rather, we must anticipate the possibility that they might gore, and one is responsible to prevent them from doing so. When he does not take those measures, he is liable for not fulfilling his responsibility. According to this opinion the likelihood of attached keren damaging is no less that the other avos and we could derive the attached keren from the other avos. As opposed to a financial obligation because of his negligence of not guarding his oxen to prevent them from goring. The one, who holds that half payment is a fine, believes that essentially one need not take precautions to prevent oxen from goring. The torah’s insistent on half payment is a fine, not a financial obligation. The differences between the nature of the obligation, financial or fine will be discussed later in the Gemara. However, according to the one who says that half payment is a fine, because he holds that ordinary oxen are assumed to be guarded, and it is not necessary to take precautions to prevent oxen from goring, an attached keren cannot be derived from the other avos, as the Gemara says later on (5b), if you put bor together with any one of the other avos, the other avos could be derived from the combination, with the exception of keren, because one can refute the attempt to learn it from the other avos by arguing that it is not a fair comparison, since all the other avos are initially muadim, which means that it is the norm for them to cause damage as opposed to keren, which is assumed to be guarded, and not likely to cause damage. We are now faced with the problem of understanding how according to the one who holds that half payment is a fine, our Gemara says that I would say that an attached keren is fully liable? There seems to be no source for such a conclusion. Tosafot question is based on the understanding that when the Gemara says “I would say” that attached keren pays in full, is that the conclusion would be correct. Thus, Tosafot has attempted to show why that conclusion would in fact be correct. In Tosafot solution, he will say that this understanding of “I would say” is not necessarily so. “I might say” can mean that I might erroneously say. And one can answer: That according to the one who says half payment is a fine, and that ordinary oxen can be assumed to be guarded, that which the Gemara says: but as a far as an attached keren, I might say that it is initially a muad and pay in full even the first time it damages, do not mean to say that a special verse is actually needed to teach me that attached keren is not a muad, and that if not for the verse I would correctly conclude that an attached keren is required to make full payment. If one were to follow the regular systems of deriving one av from another, one could not logically reach the conclusion that an attached keren must make full payment, as we have already explained in Tosafot question. Rather, what is meant is the tanna needed to teach us by citing proof from a verse, that an attached keren as well is included in the term “goring”, so that you might not erroneously conclude that the term “goring” is limited to only an unattached keren, such as the iron horns of Tzidkiyah, but with an attached keren, it is initially the norm for an ox to damage, ror.and we could learn from bor and one of the other avos that attached keren is initially liable for full payment. To avoid making such an error the Braita cited the verse of “the horns of a r’aim are his horns”, with them he shall gore etc. This shows that goring with an ordinary attached keren is included in the term goring. There is no room for a possible error.

    And the Torah teaches us, in passing, a concept - By using different verbs to describe the goring of a person as opposed to the goring of another animal, the Torah is teaching us that there is an inherent difference between killing a person and killing an animal. A greater effort and viciousness is required to kill a person. Therefore if an animal is muad to kill people, it is automatically muad to kill animals, but if the animal is muad to kill other animals it is not muad to kill people. Tosafot points out that there seems to be a Gemara later that contradicts our conclusion. On (37a) Rav Papa clearly says that an animal that is muad to kill people is not muad to kill animals. Tosafot will attempt to reconcile this apparent contradiction. And even according to Rav Papa who says later in Shor Shenogach Daled V’hay (37a) that a muad to kill people ordinarily is not muad to kill animals, which seems to contradict our Gemara and the lesson taught by the Braita, that is only when he killed only three people, by doing that he does not become muad to kill animals, but if he gored a person, an ox and a donkey which are three species he becomes muad for all including people. However, if he gores an ox, a donkey and a camel, he does not become muad for people, even though he is muad for all animals, even according to Rav Papa as the Gemara says there (37a). That according to Rav Papa an ox who killed three different animals is a muad for all animals. The lesson of the Braita is still in effect, animals are more readily killed than humans. Tosafot offers a second solution to this contradiction: And R’ M’nachem explained that the Gemara means to say as follows: An animal that is muad for people, who was a muad for everything including animals, and he retracted from animals, he saw an animal three times and did not attack it, but he remained a muad for people, there was no evidence that he retracted from killing people, remains a muad for animals, for the retraction from killing animals is inconclusive, as long as he remains a muad for people. However, a muad for everything, people and animals, who retracted from killing people, is no longer muad to kill people, for his retraction from killing people is a retraction. According to this answer as well, we see that an animal is more likely to kill animals than humans, therefore his retraction from killing animals is inconclusive as long as he remains muad for people, but his retraction from killing people is a retraction even though he remains a muad for killing animals.

    As one who consumes with the tooth - Why is tooth referred to as golol? Rabbeinu Chananel explains that the word golol is related to tooth as we see in Ezra 6, “rows of marble stone.” We see that golol is used to describe marble. For a tooth is similar to marble stone. We therefore translate “as the golol consumes”- as the tooth consumes. The word y’vaer is used to describe the activity of the tooth, so too, the verse in the Torah u’vee’air refers to the activity of the tooth.

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    Rabbeinu Chananel

    אמר ר' פפא יש מהן תולדות כיוצא באבותם ויש מהן לאו כיוצא בהן:

    ת"ר ג' אבות נאמרו בשור הקרן והשן והרגל - הקרן דת"ר כי יגח אין נגיחה אלא בקרן כו' מהו דתימא כי פליג רחמנא בין תמה למועדת בתלושה. פי' בקרן תלושה כמו קרני צדקיה בן כנענה שהן קרני ברזל. אבל קרן המחוברת שהוא קרן השור אימא מתחילה מועדת היא.

    ת"ש וקרני ראם קרניו וגו' - תולדה דקרן כל דבר שכוונת הבהמה להזיק ואין הזיקה מצוי. כגון נגיפה נשיכה רביצה ובעיטה.

    ופשטי' תולדה דקרן כקרן - כי קאמר רב פפא תולדות לאו כיוצא בהן אתולדה דשן ורגל.

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