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    Bava Kamma 14a

    Chapter 1 - Arba'ah Avot

    גם: בבא קמא דף י״ד ע״א, פרק א׳ ארבעה אבות

    English translation - Bava Kamma 14a

    Translation: William Davidson Edition - English. Read alongside the Aramaic below; numbers match the passages of the daf.

    1but he did not undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lender’s ox to prevent it from causing damage. Accordingly, the lender remains responsible for his ox, and if it caused damage to the borrower’s ox the lender is liable, as in any other case in which his ox caused damage.

    2The Gemara asks: If that is so, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita : If the ox was safely enclosed and a wall broke open at night, or if bandits broke it open and the ox went out and caused damage, the bailee is exempt from liability. The Gemara infers: If it broke open during the day and then caused damage, he is liable. The Gemara asks: According to the interpretation offered in explanation of the previous clause, the baraita concerns a case in which one borrowed an ox but did not undertake the responsibility to prevent it from causing damage. If so, how can the latter clause imply that there are cases in which he is liable? If he did not undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lender’s ox to prevent it from causing damage, he should never be liable for the damage that it caused.

    3The Gemara answers that the latter clause of the baraita concerns a different case than that of the previous clause. This is what the latter clause of the baraita is saying: If, by contrast, the borrower did undertake the responsibility of safeguarding the lender’s ox to prevent it from causing damage, if it causes damage, the borrower is liable. But if the ox was safely enclosed and the wall enclosing it broke open at night, or if bandits broke it open and the ox went out and caused damage, he is exempt.

    4The Gemara returns to its prior discussion of the mishna’s statement concerning property designated for the joint use of the injured party and the one liable for the damage. The Gemara cited Rabbi Elazar’s opinion that each partner is exempt from liability for any damage that falls within the categories of Trampling or Eating that their ox caused to the other partner’s property. The Gemara challenges his opinion: Is that so? But didn’t Rav Yosef teach in a baraita : In a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners, or in an inn [ pundak ], one is liable for Eating and for Trampling caused by an ox of one partner to the property of the other. It would appear that this baraita is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rabbi Elazar.

    5The Gemara answers: Rabbi Elazar could have said to you: But how can you understand that this baraita provides a refutation of my opinion? Are there not baraitot that disagree with regard to this issue? And it is taught in accordance with my opinion in a baraita in the Tosefta (1:9): Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would state four principles with regard to the liability incurred based on where the damage occurs. With regard to any location that is the property of the injured party and is not the property of the one liable for the damage, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for all the damage caused there. If a place is the property of the one liable for the damage and is not the property of the injured party, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for all the damage caused there.

    6If a place is the property of both this one and that one, e.g., a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners or a field in the valley that is used by the public, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. But for goring, and for pushing, and for biting, and for crouching upon items in order to damage them, and for kicking, which are all subcategories of the primary category of Goring, if the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.

    7If a place where the damage occurs is the property of neither this one nor that one, e.g., a courtyard that is not owned by either of the two of them, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. But for goring, and for pushing, and for biting, and for crouching upon items in order to damage them, and for kicking, which are all subcategories of the primary category of Goring, if the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.

    8The Gemara notes that in any event the baraita teaches that in a courtyard designated for the joint use of partners or a field in the valley that is jointly owned, the owner of an animal that causes damage is exempt for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place. This baraita supports Rabbi Elazar’s opinion.

    9The Gemara comments: These baraitot are difficult, as they seem to contradict one another.

    10The Gemara explains: When that baraita is taught, it is with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the use of both this one and that one, i.e., as partners, for bringing both produce and oxen there. Since both partners have a right to keep their oxen there, they are not liable for any damage their oxen cause in the jointly owned space. That baraita of Rav Yosef is taught with regard to a jointly owned courtyard, which under the terms of their partnership is designated for the purpose of bringing their produce there, but it is not designated for bringing oxen there. Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating caused by one partner’s ox to the other’s produce, it is equivalent to a courtyard owned exclusively by the injured party, and therefore he is liable.

    11The Gemara notes: In accordance with this explanation, the language of each of these baraitot is also precise, as it teaches here, in the baraita of Rav Yosef, the case of a courtyard that is similar to an inn, where oxen are usually not allowed to be brought, and it teaches there, in the second baraita , the case of a courtyard that is similar to a field in the valley, where oxen are usually allowed to enter. Conclude from it that the Gemara’s distinction between the two baraitot is correct.

    12Rabbi Zeira objects to this interpretation of Rav Yosef’s baraita : Since the courtyard is designated for both of them to keep their produce there, they should not be liable for damage caused by their oxen there, as in order for one to be liable don’t we need a case that fits the depiction of the verse: “And it consumed in a field of another” (Exodus 22:4), and since they both have the right to use the courtyard it does not fulfill this condition.

    13Abaye said to him: Since it is not designated for them to keep oxen there, that is sufficient for it to be termed “a field of another.”

    14Given the distinction between the cases discussed in the baraitot , the Gemara reconsiders the dispute between Rav Ḥisda and Rabbi Elazar concerning the mishna’s statement about property whose use is designated for both the injured party and the one liable for the damage. Rav Aḥa of Difti said to Ravina: Let us say that from the fact that the baraitot do not disagree, as they are referring to different cases, so too, the amora’im , i.e., Rav Ḥisda and Rabbi Elazar, also do not disagree, as they are similarly referring to these different cases.

    15Ravina said to him: Yes, that is correct. And even if you say that they disagree, their dispute does not concern every case of a jointly owned courtyard, as the Gemara had assumed; rather, their dispute concerns specifically a courtyard designated for the use of their produce, but not the use of their oxen. And they disagree whether to accept the difficulty raised by Rabbi Zeira, that such a courtyard cannot be considered “a field of another,” or whether to accept the resolution of Abaye, that it can be considered “a field of another.”

    16§ The Gemara returns to the matter itself and analyzes the baraita in the Tosefta cited above. It states: Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar would state four principles with regard to the liability incurred based on where the damage was caused. With regard to any location that is the property of the injured party and is not the property of the one liable for the damage, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for all the damage caused there.

    17The Gemara infers: The baraita does not teach: One is liable for any [ al hakkol ] damage caused there, which would suggest that one is liable for all types of damage. Rather, it teaches: One is liable for all [ bakkol ] the damage caused, which can be translated as: For the full cost of the damage. This indicates that even were one’s ox considered to be innocuous and caused damage of the category of Goring, which would generally incur liability for half the value of the damage, in this case the owner is liable for the full cost of the damage.

    18Whose opinion is this? It is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, who says: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, done in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays the full cost of the damage even if the ox is innocuous.

    19If this is so, say, and try to explain accordingly, the latter clause of the baraita : If a place where the damage occurs is the property of neither this one nor that one, e.g., a courtyard that is not owned by either of the two of them, the owner of an animal that causes damage is liable for Eating and for Trampling performed by his animal in that place.

    20The Gemara asks: What does the baraita mean by saying the property is of neither this one nor that one? If we say the intention of the baraita is that the property is of neither this one nor that one at all, but rather it belongs to another person, why should either partner be liable? But don’t I need a case that fits the depiction of the verse: “And it consumed in a field of another” (Exodus 22:4), which is understood to mean that the consumed produce belongs to the owner of the field in which the act of consumption occurred; and since the injured party does not have any rights to this place it does not fulfill this condition?

    21Rather, it is obvious that the intention of the baraita is that the property is of neither this one nor that one together; rather, it belongs to only one of them, i.e., the injured party, and the latter clause teaches: If the ox is innocuous, the owner pays half the value of the damage, and if it is forewarned, he pays the full cost of the damage.

    22If so, in the latter clause we arrive at the opinion of the Rabbis, who say: The halakha of cases of Goring performed by an innocuous animal, which is atypical, occurring in the courtyard of the injured party, is that the owner of the ox pays half the value of the damage.

    23The Gemara asks: Could it be that the first clause of the baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon and the last clause is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis?

    24The Gemara answers: Yes, that is as Shmuel said to Rav Yehuda with regard to another mishna (15b): Shinnana , leave the mishna and follow after me and my interpretation that the first clause of the mishna is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon and the last clause is in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis. In this baraita as well, the different clauses are taught in accordance with different Sages’ opinions.

    25The Gemara presents a different interpretation of the baraita : Ravina said in the name of Rava: The entire baraita is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Tarfon, and what does it mean by saying that the property is of neither this one nor that one? The property does not belong both to this one and that one; rather, it is designated for the use of only one of them, for him to keep his produce there. Only the injured party has the right to keep his produce there. But it is designated both for this one and for that one, for them to keep their oxen there, as both have this right.

    26Accordingly, with regard to damage of the category of Eating, the property is considered to be the courtyard of the injured party; therefore, the one responsible for the damage is liable to pay for the damage. By contrast, with regard to damage of the category of Goring, since they both have the right to keep their oxen there, the property is considered to be like a public domain, and therefore even Rabbi Tarfon agrees that if one’s innocuous ox causes damage there one is liable for only half the value of the damage.

    27The Gemara asks: If that is so, does the baraita list four principles? There are only three. In other words, according to the way Ravina explains the latter clause, i.e., the fourth principle, it does not teach anything that is not already known from the first three principles, as the fact that one is liable for Eating and Trampling in property designated for the use of the injured party is explicitly stated in the first principle, and the fact that one is liable for only half the cost of the damage in a case of Goring in a jointly owned courtyard is expressed in the third principle.

    28Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said:

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    ולא קבל עליו שמירת נזקיו - אם יזיק הוא את אחרים:

    איני והא תני רב יוסף - אדרבי אלעזר פריך:

    והפונדק - בית גדול שרגילין אורחים ואכסנאין ללון בו ואם הזיק זה את זה חייב אשן ורגל ולא הוי כרה"ר דהואיל ואינו מיוחד לבני רשות הרבים אלא לאותן הדרין בו כשדה אחר קרינן ביה שהרי ע"י שכירות הם דרים שם:

    ותסברא דמתניתא לא פליגי - דליכא ברייתא דקאי כוותי והתניא ד' כללות כו':

    חייב בכל - לקמן מפרש שאפילו קרן תמה משלם נזק שלם הואיל ונכנס לרשותו והזיקה:

    פטור מכל - דאמר ליה תורך ברשותי מאי בעי:

    על השן ורגל - דלא קרינן ביה בשדה אחר דמשמע שיהא מיוחד לניזק אבל על הנגיחה ועל הנגיפה והנשיכה והרביצה והבעיטה שהן תולדותיו של קרן תם משלם חצי נזק דכרה"ר הוא שהרי לשניהן רשות בו:

    לא לזה ולא לזה - מפרש לקמיה דאינו של שניהן אלא של אחד מהן של ניזק:

    חייב בה על השן ועל הרגל - נ"ש:

    ועל הנגיחה כו' - ולקמן פריך הא תנא רישא דבחצר הניזק אפילו קרן תמה משלם נ"ש:

    פטור בה על השן ועל הרגל - והיינו כר' אלעזר:

    וקפריך גמרא - קשיא אהדדי:

    כי תניא ההיא - דפטור:

    בחצר המיוחדת לזה ולזה - לפירות ולשוורים דהויא ליה חצר השותפים לגבי שן ולגבי קרן הלכך בשן פטור ברה"ר ובקרן תמה ח"נ ברה"ר משלם:

    ודרב יוסף בחצר המיוחדת כו' - דהויא חצר הניזק שלא היה לו להכניס שם שוורים ולא דמי לרה"ר, פונדק אינו מיוחד לשוורים לפי ששם מונחת פרגמטיא של סוחרים ואינן מניחין ליכנס שם שוורים שלא ידחפו ויטנפו כליהם:

    סתם בקעה רועים שם שוורים:

    בעינן שדה אחר וליכא - שהרי יש למזיק רשות בה להכניס פירותיו:

    שדה אחר קרינן ביה - שהרי נכנס שלא ברשות שלא היה לו רשות לשוורים:

    אמוראי נמי לא פליגי - דהא דרב חסדא בשאינה מיוחדת לשוורים ודרבי אלעזר במיוחדת אף לשוורים:

    בקושיא דר' זירא ופירוקא דאביי - ובחצר המיוחדת לפירות ולא לשוורים רב חסדא כאביי דכיון דאינה מיוחדת לשוורים שדה אחר קרינא ביה ורבי אלעזר כרבי זירא כיון דיש למזיק רשות בה לפירות לא קרינא ביה שדה אחר:

    חייב על הכל לא קתני - דליהוי משמע על השן והרגל ועל הקרן אלא חייב בכל דמשמע על הקרן אע"ג שהוא תם אתא לאשמועינן דחייב נ"ש:

    רבי טרפון היא דאמר - לקמן בפרק כיצד (בבא קמא דף כד:):

    משונה קרן בחצר הניזק נ"ש משלם - קרן תמה וכל תולדותיה קרי משונה הואיל ושינו את וסתן שלא היו דרכן לכך:

    אלא דאחר - שאינו לא ניזק ולא מזיק וקתני חייב על השן והא בעינן שדה אחר:

    אלא דחד מינייהו - כלומר דניזק:

    הא א"ל שמואל לרב יהודה כו' - לקמן גבי חמשה תמין:

    שבוק מתניתין - לא תטרח לשנויי כחד תנא:

    ותא אבתראי - ואימא כוותי דאוקי אנא רישא רבי טרפון וסיפא רבנן וד' כללות דקאמר ר"ש תרי מינייהו בחד דוכתא חד כר' טרפון וחד כרבנן:

    אלא דחד - דניזק:

    דלגבי שן הויא חצר הניזק - וחייב המזיק בנזקי שן שהרי לגבי פירות אינה אלא דניזק:

    ולגבי קרן הויא רה"ר - שהרי ברשות הכניס שם שורו ומשום הכי הוא משלם חצי נזק ותו לא:

    ג' כללות הוו - דהאי כללא בתרא שמעינן ליה מקמאי דכיון דלגבי שן הויא חצר הניזק למה ליה למתני חייב על השן הא תנא ליה רישא כל שהוא רשות לניזק ולא למזיק חייב בכל וקרן בחצר השותפין הא תנא ליה רישא כגון חצר השותפין והבקעה על הנגיחה ועל הנגיפה תם משלם חצי נזק:

    בבא קמא 14 עמוד א

    1ולא קבל עליו שמירת נזקיו.

    2אי הכי, אימא סיפא: נפרצה בלילה או שפרצוה לסטים, ויצתה והזיקה פטור. הא ביום חייב? הא לא קבל עליו שמירת נזקיו!

    3הכי קאמר: אם קבל עליו שמירת נזקיו חייב. נפרצה בלילה או שפרצוה לסטים, ויצתה והזיקה פטור.

    4איני?! והא תני רב יוסף: חצר השותפים, והפונדק חייב בהן על השן ועל הרגל. תיובתא דרבי אלעזר!

    5אמר לך רבי אלעזר: ותסברא?! מתניתא מי לא פליגי? והתניא, ארבעה כללות היה ר' שמעון בן אלעזר אומר בנזקין: כל שהוא רשות לניזק ולא למזיק חייב בכל. דמזיק ולא לניזק פטור מכל.

    6לזה ולזה, כגון חצר השותפים והבקעה פטור בה על השן ועל הרגל; על הנגיחה ועל הנגיפה ועל הנשיכה ועל הרביצה ועל הבעיטה תם משלם חצי נזק, מועד משלם נזק שלם.

    7לא לזה ולא לזה, כגון חצר שאינו של שניהם חייב בו על השן ועל הרגל; על הנגיחה ועל הנשיכה ועל הנגיפה ועל הרביצה ועל הבעיטה תם משלם חצי נזק, מועד משלם נזק שלם.

    8קתני מיהת, חצר השותפין והבקעה פטור בה על השן ועל הרגל;׃

    9קשיא אהדדי!

    10כי תניא ההיא בחצר מיוחדת לזה ולזה בין לפירות בין לשוורים. ההיא דרב יוסף בחצר מיוחדת לפירות, ואינה מיוחדת לשוורים; דלגבי שן הויא לה חצר הניזק.

    11דיקא נמי דקתני הכא דומיא דפונדק, וקתני התם דומיא דבקעה; שמע מינה.

    12מתקיף לה רבי זירא: כיון דמיוחדת לפירות?! הא בעינן (שמות כב, ד) ״ובער בשדה אחר״, וליכא!

    13א"ל אביי: כיון דאינה מיוחדת לשוורים, ״שדה אחר״ קרינא ביה.

    14א"ל רב אחא מדיפתי לרבינא: לימא מדמתניתא לא פליגי, אמוראי נמי לא פליגי?

    15אמר ליה: אין. ואם תמצא לומר פליגי בקושיא דרבי זירא ובפירוקא דאביי פליגי.

    16גופא ארבעה כללות היה רבי שמעון בן אלעזר אומר בנזקין: כל שהוא רשות לניזק ולא למזיק חייב בכל.

    17״על הכל״ לא קתני, אלא ״חייב בכל״ בכולי נזק;׃

    18מני רבי טרפון היא, דאמר: משונה קרן בחצר הניזק, נזק שלם משלם.

    19אימא סיפא: לא לזה ולא לזה, כגון חצר שאינו של שניהם חייב בה על השן ועל הרגל.

    20מאי ״לא לזה ולא לזה״? אילימא לא לזה ולא לזה כלל אלא דאחר; והא בעינא ״ובער בשדה אחר״, וליכא!

    21אלא פשיטא, לא לזה ולא לזה אלא דחד; וקתני סיפא: תם משלם חצי נזק, ומועד משלם נזק שלם;׃

    22אתאן לרבנן, דאמרי: משונה קרן בחצר הניזק, חצי נזק הוא דמשלם!

    23רישא רבי טרפון, וסיפא רבנן?!

    24אין; דהא אמר ליה שמואל לרב יהודה: שיננא, שבוק מתניתין ותא אבתראי רישא רבי טרפון, וסיפא רבנן.

    25רבינא משמיה דרבא אמר: כולה רבי טרפון היא; ומאי לא לזה ולא לזה לא לזה ולא לזה לפירות, אלא דחד; לזה ולזה לשוורים.

    26דלגבי שן הויא לה חצר הניזק, לגבי קרן הויא לה רשות הרבים.

    27א"ה ארבעה?! שלשה הוו!

    28אמר רב נחמן בר יצחק:

    Tosafot

    But he did not undertake safeguarding [the ox] from causing damage - The Gemara is saying that the Braita that speaks of liability for an ox that has been deposited with one of the guards is speaking about when the borrower assumed responsibility for what might happen to the ox itself, but not for that which the ox damages others. The liability for damages remains with the ox’s owner and if the ox damages an ox belonging to the borrower, the lender is liable as an ordinary damager, for a tam half payment and for a muad full payment. If you ask: Since the borrower did not assume responsibility for damage done by the ox on loan, liability for damages remains with the owner, if so, it is plain that if the ox on loan damages the borrower’s ox that a tam must pay half of the damages and a muad must pay full damages? We can answer: one might think that when the borrower does not assume responsibility for damages, the understanding is that he is not obligated to secure the ox on loan, so that it does not damage a third party’s ox, but insofar as the borrower’s own ox is concerned, one might think that the borrower assumed responsibility for what the ox on loan might do to his own ox and the lender should be exempt, the Braita therefore needs to teach us that the lender is liable even for what the ox on loan does to the borrower’s ox.

    Are there not [baraitot] that disagree? As Tosafot earlier on 13b ד"ה חצר השותפין explained, the Gemara here is saying that R’ Elozor would tell us that the two Braitas are disagreeing with each other. Although the Gemara does offer a resolution, R’ Elozor does not agree with the interpretation of the Braita that holds one liable. The Gemara says that the Braita will be speaking of when both partners are allowed to bring in their produce and they are both not allowed to bring in their oxen. R’ Zeira wondered: How can this be considered ‘another’s field’? After all the damager may also store his produce in the courtyard! Abaye answered this question, but the Gemara says that R’ Elozor does not accept Abaye’s answer and holds that even though they may both not bring their oxen into the courtyard, since the damager may bring his produce into the courtyard, it cannot be considered ‘another’s field’ which is a requirement for shain and regel liability. Tosafot suggests another possible interpretation of the Braita that R’ Elozor could accept. The Gemara could have interpreted that Braita of Rav Yosef as speaking of the following situation: not this one and not that one have the right to bring in oxen and for produce; one of the partners may store his produce there. In the very next Tosafot we will see that Tosafot holds that in this situation even R’ Elozor agrees that it is a courtyard of the nizok for shain and regel, since he has the exclusive right to keep his produce there and that it is the equivalent of a public domain for keren, since both are equally not allowed to bring their oxen into the courtyard.

    Not both of them [have permission to store] produce; rather, one [of them has]. Raveeno is searching for a solution that would allow us to say that the fourth general rule of the Braita also follows the opinion of R’ Tarfon who holds that when keren damages in the nizok’s courtyard it is liable for full payment. In this last rule of the Braita we must find a situation where the courtyard is considered as a public domain for keren but as a private domain for shain and regel. Raveeno suggests that the text of the Braita “not for this one and not for that one” is to be understood as follows: They did not both have the right to store their produce in the courtyard, but only one did have that right. Since only one partner has exclusive rights to store his produce in the courtyard, it is considered a courtyard of the nizok for shain and regel. All agree about this sentence in the Gemara. Our text continues: “ לזה ולזה לשוורים - this one and that one had the right to bring in their oxen”. This would explain why this courtyard is not considered the courtyard of the nizok as far as keren is concerned, because the space was not the exclusive domain of either of the partners as relates to oxen. They both have equal rights and the area is similar to a public domain for keren. Thus, R’ Tarfon agrees that a tam is liable for only half. However, Rabbeinu Tam’s cannot make peace with this text, as he will now explain: Rabbeinu Tam emended the text as follows: The courtyard is not for this one and not for that one to bring in their oxen, neither of the partners may bring oxen into the courtyard, and only one of them may store his produce there. They may be partners, because they both have the right to live there and keep other household items in the courtyard. See Maharsho to previous Tosafot. This arrangement of the Braita satisfies our need to find an area that is considered a courtyard of the nizok in relation to shain and regel, but not for keren. For in regard to shain, which is liable only in ‘another’s field’, it is a courtyard of the nizok, because he did damage produce where the nizok had the exclusive right to store his produce there, but in regard to oxen, the classification of the damage is that it is keren in a public domain, since they both did not have the right to be there. We should not preserve the text as it is written in manuscripts: That the courtyard is for this one and for that one for oxen, which implies that they both did have the right to keep their oxen in the courtyard, but only one had the right to keep his produce there, for if so, in regard to shain and regel the courtyard should not be considered a courtyard of the nizok, since each one of them has the right to bring his oxen in, as is evident earlier when the Gemara said that the Braita that says that one is exempt for shain and regel is speaking of when both had the right to bring their oxen into the courtyard. It is evident that if I may bring my ox there, I am not liable for the damage that it does. If the courtyard we are presently discussing is one where both partner’s may bring their oxen, how could one be liable for damaging the other’s produce? Rather, we must emend the text as Rabbeinu Tam suggests that they both did not have the right to bring their oxen into the courtyard and that is why it is considered a courtyard of the nizok for shain and regel. Tosafot considers another way of interpreting the Braita: ולא בעי לאוקמא לזה ולזה לפירות ולא לשוורים And the Gemara does not want to interpret this fourth rule of the Braita as speaking of when this one and that one had the right to bring in produce and not oxen, where we said earlier that there is liability for shain and regel and that for keren one pays half for a tam and in full for a muad even according to R’ Tarfon, because as far as keren is concerned this is not the courtyard of the nizok. Because that would be interpreting the fourth section of the Braita, דלא כר' זירא -- not like R’ Zeira who says that one is not liable for shain and regel, since he has the right to keep his produce there the courtyard cannot be considered ‘another’s field’. The Gemara usually avoids taking sides in a dispute, when an alternative is available. Furthermore, the wording is not to be understood this way. The words of the Braita “not for this one and not for that one” are stressing the negative. If we say that they both do not have the right to bring in their oxen, but they both do have the right to bring in their produce, the situation is as positive as it is negative. If however, we say that both did not have the right to bring in their oxen, and one also did not have the right to bring in his produce, there is far more negative than positive and the negative tone of “not for this one and not for that one” is justified.

    If that is so, [does the braita list] four [principles]? There are [only] three. The words ‘ אי הכי – if so’ indicate that this question is asked only according to Raveeno’s solution to the Braita, where he explained that even the fourth rule of the Braita is in accordance with R’ Tarfon’s opinion. According to Shmuel’s approach, that the Braita was split and the fourth rule is not in accordance with R’ Tarfon, this question is unfounded. Tosafot clarifies: It is perfectly understood that according to Shmuel who interprets the Braita as follows: that the beginning, the first rule, is in accordance with R’ Tarfon and the conclusion, the fourth rule, is in accordance with the Rabonon, therefore the conclusion, the fourth rule, is needed to exclude the opinion of R’ Tarfon. Initially, R’ Shimon ben Elozor, the author of the four rules, agreed with R’ Tarfon. Ultimately he favored the Rabonon and added the fourth rule as an expression of his final opinion in this matter. However, according to Raveeno, the fourth rule is not needed at all. For in regard to shain and regel that this area is courtyard of the nizok can be understood from the first rule: in any place that is the domain of the nizok, there is liability for all, shain regel and keren. As previously explained, this case is considered the domain of the nizok as far as shain and regel are concerned because only the nizok is allowed to be there, so we know that shain is liable in this area. And that this is considered keren in a public domain can be understood from the third rule that says that in a jointly owned courtyard and a valley, one is liable for keren as in a public domain. The jointly owned courtyard when both have equal rights to be in that area is considered as a public domain even though it is not actually a public domain. So too, a jointly owned area, where both do not have the right to be is considered a public domain, because they are equally not allowed to be there. As long as both the damager and the victim are equally allowed or not allowed to be in that place, it is viewed as public domain for keren as Tosafot explained earlier. According to Raveeno’s interpretation of the fourth rule, all the details can be derived from the other rules of the Braita and the Braita did not need to mention the fourth rule at all.

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    Rabbeinu Chananel

    וכיון שקיבלו השומרים שמירת ניזקין נפרץ ביום ויצתה חייבין השומרים נפרצה בלילה או שפרצוה לסטים ויצתה והזיקה פטור. ואקשינן על ר' אלעזר הא דתני ר' יוסף חצר השותפין והפונדק חייב בה על השן ועל הרגל ופריק במיוחדת לזה ולזה לפירות ולא לשוורים דאי לא תימא הכי הא דתניא ד' כללות היה ר' שמעון בן אלעזר אומר בנזקין כל שהוא רשות לניזק ולא למזיק חייב בכל. למזיק ולא לניזק פטור בכל. לזה ולזה כגון חצר השותפין והבקעה פטור בה על השן ועל הרגל. קתני מיהא פטור בה על השן ועל הרגל קשיין אהדדי. אלא הא דתני ר' שמעון בחצר המיוחדת לשניהן בין לפירות בין לשוורים והא דתני ר' יוסף בחצר המיוחדת לשניהם לפירות ולא לשוורים ופשוטה היא. ואמרינן כיון דשנית להו למתניתא שני נמי לאמוראי ואימא ר' חסדא דחייב על השן ועל הרגל בחצר המיוחדת לפירות ולא לשוורים ור' אלעזר דפטר בחצר המיוחדת לשתיהן לפירות ולשוורים.

    ואם תמצא לומר פליגי בקשיא דר' זירא דאמר כיון דמיוחדת לפירות הא בעינא ובער בשדה אחר וליכא. ופריק אביי כיון דאינה מיוחדת לשוורים שדה אחר קרינא ביה. ר' אלעזר כר' זירא ורב חסדא כאביי. גופא ד' כללות היה ר"ש בן ר' אלעזר אומר כל שהוא רשות לניזק ולא למזיק חייב בכל דייקינן מדלא קתני חייב על הכל דמשמע על קרן ועל השן ועל הרגל אלא קתני חייב (על) בכל דמשמע בכל הנזק שמעינן מינה דלר' טרפון היא דאמר קרן בחצר הניזק נזק שלם משלם והא דר' טרפון בפרק כיצד. ודייקינן תוב מסיפא דקתני לא לזה ולא לזה אלא דחד מינייהו והוא דניזק וקתני תם משלם חצי נזק רישא ר' טרפון וסיפא רבנן אין האמר ליה שמואל לר' יהודה שבוק מתני' ותא בתראי פירושו בשמועה שאחרי זאת כו' ובא רבינא ותירצה הכי כגון חצר המיוחדת לפירות לאחד ולשניהן לשוורים דלגבי שן הויא לה חצר הניזק לבדו ולגבי קרן הויא לה רשות הרבים. ואקשי' עליה אי הכי ד' כללות ג' הוו לניזק ולא למזיק חייב בכל למזיק ולא לניזק פטור בכל.

    לזה לפירות חייב בכל ולשניהן לשוורים תם משלם חצי נזק ומועד משלם נזק שלם הנה ג' דינים. ופריק ג' כללות בד' מקומות כלומר לזה לפירות ולזה לשוורים שני מקומות הן:

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