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    Berakhot 29a

    Chapter 4 - Tefillat HaShachar

    גם: ברכות דף כ״ט ע״א, פרק ד׳ תפלת השחר

    English translation - Berakhot 29a

    Translation: William Davidson Edition - English. Read alongside the Aramaic below; numbers match the passages of the daf.

    1and scrutinized it, in an attempt to remember the blessing for two or three hours, and they did not remove him from serving as prayer leader.

    2The Gemara asks: Why did they not remove him? Didn’t Rav Yehuda say that Rav said: One who was serving as the prayer leader before the congregation and erred in reciting any of the blessings, they do not remove him from serving as the prayer leader. However, one who erred while reciting the blessing of the heretics they remove him, as we suspect that perhaps he is a heretic and intentionally omitted the blessing to avoid cursing himself. Why, then, did they not remove Shmuel HaKatan?

    3The Gemara answers: Shmuel HaKatan is different because he instituted this blessing and there is no suspicion of him.

    4The Gemara continues: Let us suspect that perhaps he reconsidered and, although he had been righteous, he had a change of heart? Abaye said: We learned through tradition that a good person does not become wicked.

    5The Gemara challenges this: And does he not become wicked? Isn’t it explicitly written: “And when the righteous one returns from his righteousness and does wicked like all of the abominations that the wicked one has done, will he live? All of the righteous deeds that he has done will not be remembered given the treachery that he has carried out, and in his sin that he has transgressed, for these he shall die” (Ezekiel 18:24)? Abaye responds: That verse refers to a righteous individual who was initially wicked and repented, but ultimately returned to his evil ways. However, one who is initially righteous does not become wicked.

    6The Gemara asks: And does he not become wicked? Didn’t we learn in a mishna: Do not be sure of yourself until the day you die, as Yoḥanan the High Priest served in the High Priesthood for eighty years and ultimately became a Sadducee. Even one who is outstanding in his righteousness can become a heretic.

    7Abaye responded: He is Yannai he is Yoḥanan. In other words, from its inception, the entire Hasmonean dynasty had the same positive attitude toward the Sadducees, and there was no distinction between Yoḥanan Hyrcanus and Alexander Yannai. Yoḥanan the High Priest had Sadducee leanings from the outset. Rava said: Yannai is distinct and Yoḥanan is distinct. They did not share the same position in this regard. Yannai was wicked from the outset and Yoḥanan was righteous from the outset. If so, it works out well according to Abaye’s opinion; however, according to Rava’s opinion, it is difficult. How could Yoḥanan, a righteous individual, have changed and turned wicked?

    8The Gemara responds: Rava could have said to you: There is also room for concern that one who is righteous from the outset will perhaps reconsider and turn wicked, as was the case with Yoḥanan the High Priest. If so, the original question is difficult: Why did they not remove Shmuel HaKatan from serving as the prayer leader?

    9The Gemara answers: The case of Shmuel HaKatan is different, as he began reciting the blessing of the heretics and while reciting it he became confused and forgot the end of the blessing. Consequently, he was not suspected of heretical leanings. Indeed, Rav Yehuda said that Rav, and some say that Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi, said: They only taught that one who errs while reciting the blessing of the heretics is removed in a case where he did not begin reciting it. But if he began reciting it, then we allow him to collect his thoughts and finish reciting it.

    10To this point, the Gemara discussed allusions to the nineteen blessings that constitute the weekday Amida prayer. The Gemara asks: Corresponding to what were these seven blessings of the Shabbat Amida prayer instituted? The Gemara answers: Rabbi Ḥalafta ben Shaul said: Corresponding to the seven “voices” which David mentioned on the waters; in other words, the seven times that “the voice of God” is mentioned in Psalms 29, which served as the source for the weekday prayer.

    11The Gemara asks further: Corresponding to what were these nine blessings of the Rosh HaShana additional prayer instituted? Rabbi Yitzḥak of Kartignin said: They correspond to the nine mentions of God’s name that Hannah said in her prayer (I Samuel 2:10). The connection between Hannah’s prayer and Rosh HaShana is based on what the Master said: On Rosh HaShana, Sarah, Rachel, and Hannah were remembered and the divine decree that they would conceive their sons was issued.

    12The Gemara continues: Corresponding to what were these twenty-four blessings of the Amida prayer of the fast days instituted? Rabbi Ḥelbo said: They correspond to the twenty-four “songs” that Solomon said when he brought the ark into the Holy of Holies during the dedication of the Temple, as there are twenty-four expressions of song, prayer, and supplication there (I Kings 8). The Gemara asks: If so, then let us say these twenty-four blessing every day. The Gemara answers: When did Solomon say them? On a day of supplication for mercy. We, too, say them on a day of supplication for mercy.

    13We learned in the mishna that Rabbi Yehoshua says that each day one recites an abridged version of the prayer of eighteen blessings. The Gemara asks: What is the abridged version of the prayer of eighteen blessings? There are different opinions. Rav said: One recites an abridged version of each and every blessing. Shmuel said: An abridged version of the prayer of eighteen blessings refers to a blessing composed specifically to be recited in place of the thirteen middle blessings. It contains references to each of the thirteen middle blessings. The formula for that blessing is: Grant us understanding, Lord our God, to know Your ways, and sensitize our hearts so that we may revere You, and forgive us so that we may be redeemed, and keep us far from our suffering, and satisfy us with the pastures of Your land, and gather our scattered people from the four corners of the earth, and those who go astray shall be judged according to Your will, and raise Your hand against the wicked, and may the righteous rejoice in the rebuilding of Your city, and the restoration of Your Sanctuary, and in the flourishing of Your servant David, and in establishing a light for Your Messiah, son of Yishai. Before we call, may You answer. Blessed are You, Lord, Who listens to prayer.”

    14Although Shmuel mentioned this abridged prayer, Abaye would curse anyone who recited the prayer: Grant us understanding, as he held that one may recite it only in exigent circumstances (Rabbi Ḥananel, Me’iri ).

    15The Gemara further restricts the occasions when one may recite the abridged prayer. Rav Naḥman said that Shmuel said: One may recite: Grant us understanding throughout the entire year, except for in the evening prayer at the conclusion of Shabbat and at the conclusion of Festivals, because he must recite the prayer of distinction [ havdala ] in the blessing: Who graciously grants knowledge.

    16Rabba bar Shmuel strongly objects to this: After reciting the three initial blessings, let us say havdala as an independent fourth blessing, and afterwards recite the prayer of Grant us understanding. This is feasible. Didn’t we learn in a mishna that Rabbi Akiva says: He says havdala as an independent fourth blessing? Rabbi Eliezer says: He says havdala in the blessing of thanksgiving.

    17The Gemara responds: Do we practice in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Akiva throughout the entire year regarding this issue, that we will also practice this way now? Throughout the entire year, what is the reason that we do not practice in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Akiva? Because they instituted eighteen blessings, they did not institute nineteen. Here too, they instituted seven blessings, they did not institute eight. Therefore, the possibility to recite havdala as an independent fourth blessing is rejected.

    18Mar Zutra strongly objects to this: Let us include havdala in the framework of the abridged blessing: Grant us understanding, Lord our God, Who distinguishes between sacred and profane. No response was offered to this objection, and it remains difficult.

    19Rav Beivai bar Abaye said: There is an additional restriction that applies to the abridged prayer. One may recite Grant us understanding throughout the entire year, except during the rainy season, because he must recite the request for rain in the blessing of the years. Mar Zutra strongly objects to this: Let us include the request for rain in the framework of the abridged blessing: And satisfy us with the pastures of Your land, and grant dew and rain.

    20The Gemara responds: That is unfeasible, as he will become confused by introducing a new element to the standard formula of the blessing. The Gemara asks: If so, by introducing havdala in the framework of the abridged blessing in the section alluding to the blessing, Who graciously grants knowledge, he will also become confused. Why did the Gemara fail to respond to Mar Zutra’s strong objection with regard to havdala in that manner?

    21The Gemara answers: They say that these cases are different: There, regarding havdala , since the introduction of the new element comes at the beginning of the prayer, he will not become confused. Here, since the request for rain comes in the middle of the prayer, he will become confused.

    22Rav Ashi strongly objects to this: If so, let us say the request for rain in the framework of the abridged blessing in the section alluding to the blessing Who listens to prayer. As Rabbi Tanḥum said that Rav Asi said: One who erred and did not mention the might of the rains in the blessing on the revival of the dead, we require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it. However, one who erred and failed to recite the request for rain in the ninth blessing of the Amida , the blessing of the years, we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it because he can recite it in the blessing Who listens to prayer. And one who erred and failed to recite havdala in the blessing Who graciously grants knowledge, we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it, as he can recite havdala over the cup of wine. One can ask for rain in the blessing Who listens to prayer, and, consequently, can introduce it at the end of the abridged blessing without becoming confused. The Gemara responds: One who erred is different, and only then does he have the option to ask for rain in the blessing Who listens to prayer. Ab initio , the request for rain may not be inserted there.

    23The statement that Rabbi Tanḥum said that Rav Asi said was incidental to the previous discussion. The Gemara attempts to understand the matter itself. Rabbi Tanḥum said that Rav Asi said: One who erred and did not mention the might of the rains in the blessing on the revival of the dead, we require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it. However, one who erred and failed to recite the request for rain in the blessing of the years, we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it because he can recite it in the blessing Who listens to prayer. And one who erred and failed to recite havdala in the blessing Who graciously grants knowledge, we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it, as he can recite havdala over the cup of wine.

    24The Gemara raised an objection based on what was taught in the Tosefta : One who erred and did not mention the might of the rains in the blessing on the revival of the dead, we require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it. One who erred and failed to recite the request for rain in the blessing of the years, we require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it. However, one who erred and failed to recite havdala in the blessing Who graciously grants knowledge, we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it, as he can recite havdala over the cup of wine. The Tosefta contradicts the statement of Rabbi Tanḥum with regard to one who erred and failed to recite the request for rain in the blessing of the years.

    25The Gemara responds: This is not difficult. This case, where we require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it, refers to a situation where he is praying as an individual. While that case, where we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it, refers to a situation where he is praying as part of a congregation.

    26The Gemara raises a difficulty: When praying as part of a congregation, what is the reason that he need not need return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it? Because he can fulfill his obligation when he hears it from the communal prayer leader in the repetition of the Amida prayer. If so, Rabbi Tanḥum’s formulation is imprecise. That which he said that he need not return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it because he can recite it in the blessing: Who listens to prayer, should have been: Because he hears it from the communal prayer leader. This proves that the attempt to rebuff the challenge from the Tosefta to Rabbi Tanḥum was incorrect.

    27Rather, both this statement of Rabbi Tanḥum and that statement in the Tosefta refer to one praying as an individual, and it is, nevertheless, not difficult. This case, where we do not require him to return to the beginning of the prayer and repeat it, refers to a case where he recalls his error before he reaches the blessing: Who listens to prayer, in which case he can ask for rain in that blessing.

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    והשקיף - חשב לזכור אותה לשון סוכה כדמתרגמינן וישקף ואסתכי (בראשית יט):

    רשע מעיקרו - ושב מרשעתו פעמים שחוזר ונעשה רשע:

    הוא ינאי - ששנינו בקידושין (פ"ג דף סו.) שהרג חכמי ישראל:

    ינאי רשע מעיקרו - ונעשה צדיק וחזר לרשעתו:

    דאתחיל בה - התחיל לאומרה וטעה באמצעיתה:

    לא שנו - הא דאמר רב יהודה מעלין אותו:

    שבעה קולות - במזמור קול ה' על המים (תהילים כ״ט:ג׳):

    שאמרה חנה - בפרשת עלץ לבי (שמואל א ב):

    כ"ד רננות - בפרשת ויעמוד שלמה (מלכים א ח׳:כ״ב) רנה תפלה תחנה כלהון כ"ד איכא:

    ביומא דרחמי - שהוצרך לבקש רחמים שדבקו שערים זה בזה ולא היו מניחין להכניס ארון לבית קדשי הקדשים כדאמרי' במועד קטן (דף ט.):

    מעין כל ברכה - אומר בקוצר ומברך על כל אחת ואחת:

    הביננו - ואינו מברך אלא שומע תפלה בכל הברכות שבין שלש ראשונות לשלש אחרונות הביננו כנגד אתה חונן ומול את לבבנו כנגד השיבנו לסלוח לנו כנגד סלח לנו להיות גאולים כנגד גאולה וכן כולם:

    בנאות ארצך - לשון נוה כמו בנאות דשא ירביצני (תהילים כ״ג:ב׳) והוא כנגד ברכת השנים:

    והתועים על דעתך - העוברים על דבריך:

    ישפטו - כנגד צדקה ומשפט. לשון אחר והתועים במשפט על דעתך ישפטו השיבם ללמדם לשפוט כדבריך וכן עיקר נראה לי וכן בה"ג:

    לייט עלה אביי - לפי שמדלג הברכות וכוללן בברכה אחת:

    כל השנה מי עבדינן כר' עקיבא - כלומר כשאנו מתפללין י"ח שלמות מי עבדינן כר' עקיבא לומר ברכה רביעית בפני עצמה דהשתא כשמתפללין הביננו נעביד כותיה:

    שבע תקון - שלש ראשונות ושלש אחרונות והביננו:

    ונכללה - להבדלה:

    מכלל - בתוך הביננו כדרך שהוא כוללה בחונן הדעת ויאמר הביננו ה' אלהינו המבדיל בין קדש לחול לדעת דרכיך:

    לאטרודי - לטעות:

    בתחלת - התפלה יכול אדם לכוין דעתו יותר מן האמצע:

    גבורות גשמים - הזכרה בעלמא היא לפיכך מחזירין אותו שאינה תפלה שיכול לאומרה בשומע תפלה:

    ביחיד - מחזירין אותו:

    בצבור - יחיד המתפלל עם הצבור:

    דאדכר קודם ש"ת - אין מחזירין אותו שיכול לאומרה בשומע תפלה:

    ברכות 29 עמוד א

    1והשקיף בה שתים ושלש שעות, ולא העלוהו.

    2אמאי לא העלוהו? והאמר רב יהודה אמר רב: טעה בכל הברכות כלן אין מעלין אותו, בברכת הצדוקים מעלין אותו. חיישינן שמא מין הוא?

    3שאני שמואל הקטן דאיהו תקנה.

    4וניחוש דלמא הדר ביה. אמר אביי: גמירי, טבא לא הוי בישא.

    5ולא?! והכתיב: ״(יחזקאל יח״, כד) ״ובשוב צדיק מצדקתו ועשה עול״. ההוא רשע מעיקרו, אבל צדיק מעיקרו לא.

    6ולא?! והא תנן: אל תאמין בעצמך עד יום מותך, שהרי יוחנן כ"ג שמש בכהונה גדולה שמנים שנה ולבסוף נעשה צדוקי.

    7אמר אביי: הוא ינאי, הוא יוחנן. רבא אמר: ינאי לחוד ויוחנן לחוד, ינאי רשע מעיקרו, ויוחנן צדיק מעיקרו. הניחא לאביי, אלא לרבא קשיא.

    8אמר לך רבא: צדיק מעיקרו נמי דלמא הדר ביה. אי הכי, אמאי לא אסקוהו?

    9שאני שמואל הקטן דאתחיל בה. דאמר רב יהודה אמר רב, ואיתימא רבי יהושע בן לוי: לא שנו, אלא שלא התחיל בה, אבל התחיל בה גומרה.

    10הני שבע דשבתא כנגד מי? א"ר חלפתא בן שאול: כנגד שבעה ״קולות״ שאמר דוד על המים.

    11הני תשע דר"ה כנגד מי? א"ר יצחק דמן קרטיגנין: כנגד תשעה אזכרות שאמרה חנה בתפלתה, דאמר מר: בראש השנה נפקדה שרה רחל וחנה.

    12הני עשרים וארבע דתעניתא כנגד מי? א"ר חלבו: כנגד כ"ד ״רננות״ שאמר שלמה בשעה שהכניס ארון לבית קדשי הקדשים: אי הכי, כל יומא נמי נמרינהו! אימת אמרינהו שלמה ביומא דרחמי, אנן נמי ביומא דרחמי אמרי: להו:

    13רבי יהושע אומר מעין שמנה עשרה: מאי מעין שמנה עשרה רב אמר מעין כל ברכה וברכה ושמואל אמר הביננו ה' אלהינו לדעת דרכיך ומול את לבבנו ליראתך ותסלח לנו להיות גאולים ורחקנו ממכאובינו ודשננו בנאות ארצך ונפוצותינו מארבע תקבץ והתועים על דעתך ישפטו ועל הרשעים תניף ידיך וישמחו צדיקים בבנין עירך ובתקון היכלך ובצמיחת קרן לדוד עבדך ובעריכת נר לבן ישי משיחך טרם נקרא אתה תענה ברוך אתה ה' ״שומע תפלה״,׃

    14לייט עלה אביי אמאן דמצלי הביננו׃

    15אמר רב נחמן אמר שמואל כל השנה כולה מתפלל אדם הביננו חוץ ממוצאי שבת וממוצאי ימים טובים מפני שצריך לומר הבדלה בחונן הדעת׃

    16מתקיף לה רבה בר שמואל ונימרה ברכה רביעית בפני עצמה מי לא תנן ר"ע אומר אומרה ברכה רביעית בפני עצמה ר' אליעזר אומר בהודאה׃

    17אטו כל השנה כולה מי עבדינן כר' עקיבא דהשתא נמי נעביד כל השנה כולה מאי טעמא לא עבדינן כר"ע תמני סרי תקון תשסרי לא תקון הכא נמי שבע תקון תמני לא תקון׃

    18מתקיף לה מר זוטרא ונכללה מכלל הביננו ה' אלהינו המבדיל בין קדש לחול קשיא:

    19אמר רב ביבי בר אביי כל השנה כולה מתפלל אדם הביננו חוץ מימות הגשמים מפני שצריך לומר שאלה בברכת השנים מתקיף לה מר זוטרא ונכללה מכלל ודשננו בנאות ארצך ותן טל ומטר׃

    20אתי לאטרודי אי הכי הבדלה בחונן הדעת נמי אתי לאטרודי׃

    21אמרי התם כיון דאתיא בתחלת צלותא לא מטריד הכא כיון דאתיא באמצע צלותא מטריד׃

    22מתקיף לה רב אשי ונימרה בשומע תפלה דא"ר תנחום אמר רב אסי טעה ולא הזכיר גבורות גשמים בתחיית המתים מחזירין אותו שאלה בברכת השנים אין מחזירין אותו מפני שיכול לאומרה בשומע תפלה והבדלה בחונן הדעת אין מחזירין אותו מפני שיכול לאומרה על הכוס טעה שאני:

    23גופא א"ר תנחום אמר רב אסי טעה ולא הזכיר גבורות גשמים בתחיית המתים מחזירין אותו שאלה בברכת השנים אין מחזירין אותו מפני שיכול לאומרה בשומע תפלה והבדלה בחונן הדעת אין מחזירין אותו מפני שיכול לאומרה על הכוס׃

    24מיתיבי טעה ולא הזכיר גבורות גשמים בתחיית המתים מחזירין אותו שאלה בברכת השנים מחזירין אותו והבדלה בחונן הדעת אין מחזירין אותו מפני שיכול לאומרה על הכוס׃

    25ל"ק הא ביחיד הא בצבור׃

    26בצבור מ"ט לא משום דשמעה משליח צבור אי הכי האי מפני שיכול לאומרה בשומע תפלה מפני ששומע משליח צבור מיבעי ליה׃

    27אלא אידי ואידי ביחיד ול"ק הא דאדכר קודם שומע תפלה׃

    Tosafot

    ABAYE WOULD CURSE ANYONE WHO RECITED [THE PRAYER] - GRANT US UNDERSTANDING. After a lengthy discussion about the abridged version of sh’moneh esray, the Gemara informs us that Abaye condemned those who said this abridgement. Tosfos tell us that this is not an outright rejection of the haveenainu prayer. And this is the halochoh. And there are books of the Talmud that conclude, that these words have been said in a city but along the road, it is permitted to say Haveenainu, as it appears at the beginning of this Maseches. On 3a the Gemara relates the story of R’ Yosee who was criticized by Elijah for not saying the abridged version. It appears that when one has a legitimate difficulty with reciting the entire sh’moneh esray, he may recite the abridged version.

    LET US INCLUDE [HAVDALA IN THE BLESSING] - GIVE US UNDERSTANDING. Rav Nachmon said in the name of Shmuel that one can always say haveenainu except at the conclusion of Shabos when one must say havdoloh. The Gemara here asks that he should include the havdoloh in the haveenainu prayer. When the Gemata asks a question it is proof that the Gemara feels that is quite logical to do as it suggests in the question. Otherwise the Gemara would not ask the question. Any question that the Gemara ever asks may be assumed to be a very strong statement that the Gemara considers the point made by the question to be very logical. In this particular case the Gemara does not in fact find an answer to the question. This is even further proof that the Gemara considers the point made by the question to be very logical. Tosfos is troubled by a Gemara in maseches Needoh that doesn’t seem to consider this question worthy of mentioning at all. And that which the Gemara says in the first perek of needoh (8a) that all year long one prays the entire eighteen b’rochos with the exception of maariv at the conclusion of Yom Kipur, because it is taxing for the congregation because of the fast. And there are those who say that even at the conclusion of Yom Kipur we pray the complete eighteen b’rochos because we must say havdoloh in the b’rochoh of חונן הדעת. And this is bewildering. Why doesn’t the Gemara there ask that we should include havdoloh in the haveenainu prayer as the Gemara is so adamant here, that havdoloh could be included in haveenainu. Here the Gemara seems to be so sure that it is a very reasonable solution to add havdoloh to haveenainu and there the Gemara doesn’t think of it at all. And we can answer: that there is no comparison. The Gemara here and the Gemara there are looking at the issue from two different vantage points. For there, the Gemara holds that throughout the entire year we always pray eighteen b’rochos, and we should therefore not ask “and we should include havdoloh in haveenainu” in order to change the tradition of the entire year. We usually make every effort to maintain the traditional practice. But here in our Gemara, where we are saying that throughout the year we do pray haveenainu, the Gemara correctly asks why we should change the custom in order to say אתה חוננתנו, let us include havdoloh in haveenainu. Once again, the thrust of the Gemara’s question is that we should do what is necessary to maintain the tradition of saying haveenainu at the conclusion of Shabos as we do all year.

    BECAUSE HE CAN RECITE IT IN [THE BLESSING] - WHO LISTENS TO PRAYER. The Gemara says that if one forgot to say “and give dew and rain” during the winter months, he need not repeat the sh’moneh esray because he can insert that prayer in the b’rochoh of שומע תפלה which is a general b’rochoh in which we can ask for any of our needs. As the Gemara says (later 31a, Avodoh Zoroh 8a) a person may ask for his needs during the b’rochoh שומע תפלה. And specifically one’s needs, for example when one has a sick person in his house or his field needs rain which is similar to a prayer and so to asking for dew and rain is a prayer that can be added to שומע תפלה, but declaring that He brings down the rain which is usually recited in the second b’rochoh and havdoloh and other praises of Hashem are not allowed to be said in this b’rochoh because they are not similar to the thought of the b’rochoh of שומע תפלה, which is to pray to Hashem for one’s needs not to declare the greatness of Hashem that he provides these needs on a regular basis. The Gemara has taught us that שומע תפלה is a general b’rochoh in which one can mention his individual needs. It seems from Tosfos that there were those who thought that this could be taken a step further and when making personal requests from Hashem after the conclusion of the eighteen b’rochos, when we usually say אלקי נצור they would conclude with the words ברוך אתה ה' שומע תפלה. Tosfos wants to show us that this is totally unacceptable. And it appears that one who says שומע תפלה ברוך אתה ה' after he concludes the words of request while sitting is repulsive, as the Gemara says (Megiloh18a) after the Gemara goes through a lengthy exposition explaining the reason for the order of all the b’rochos in sh’moneh esray, after this point, the recital of the final b’rochoh שים שלום, it is prohibited to recite the praises of Hashem, this means, to add b’rochos to these eighteen. It is clear that it is prohibited to add a b’rochoh to the regular eighteen b’rochos. Tosfos expresses his opinion that even adding an entire sh’moneh esray is forbidden. And even if he comes to pray the entire sh’moneh esray another time and not to only recite one of the b’rochos such as שומע תפלה as we previously discussed, is forbidden, because it appears as if he is adding to the b’rochos of sh’moneh esray. There is some evidence that addin a second sh’moneh esray is a worthy pursuit. Tosfos deals with that. And that which we said earlier (21a) would that a person pray the entire day, which seems to indicate that it is praiseworthy for one to say sh’moneh esray many times during the day, even more than the three prescribed times that is only when there is a doubt as to whether he prayed or not, he may pray a second time in order to dispel the doubt for even if he prayed already praying again is worthy, but if he definitely prayed, we have said earlier that he must stop even in the middle of a b’rochoh as Shmuel says in perek Mee Shemaiso (ibid.) But we do find that a person is required to recite the sh’moneh esray twice. And that which we find that the Chazon repeats them, the eighteen b’rochos, that is so that the multitude who cannot say the sh’moneh esray themselves, should fulfill their obligation by listening to the Chazon. But why must the Chazon first say the sh’moneh esray himself? Why can’t he fulfill his own obligation as he recites it for the congregation? And the reason that the Chazon prays silently together with the congregation, before he recites the sh’moneh esray publicly, that private recital, is in order to put his prayer in order, so that he should be familiar with the text of the prayer when he recites it for the public, as the Gemara says in the last perek of Rosh Hashonoh (34b).

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    הני כ"ד דתעניתא כנגד מי אמר ר' חלבו כנגד כ"ד רננות שאמר שלמה. הא מילתא פרשוה בתלמוד ארץ ישראל בפירקין ובפרק ב' דתענית (הלכה ב) ר' חלבו ור' שמואל כנגד כ"ד פעמים רנה תפלה תחנה שכתובין בפרשת שלמה ואית בגמרא בפ' משקין בית השלחין (מועד קטן דף ט) ובפרק כל ישראל יש להם חלק (דף קז) בשעה שבנה שלמה את בית המקדש ובקש להכניס ארון לבית קדש הקדשים דבקו שערים זה בזה אמר כ"ד רננות כו':

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