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Shabbat 139b

Shabbat 139b. The full printed text of this folio side — 19 numbered segments, about 378 words — with the classic commentaries printed on the page.

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Segment 1

וְלָא יָדַעְנָא אִי מִלְּפָנֶיהָ אִי מִלְּאַחֲרֶיהָ, וַאֲתוֹ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן, וַאֲמַר לְהוּ: יִתְעַסְּקוּן בֵּיהּ עַמְמִין.

and I do not know whether the Festival occurred before Shabbat or after Shabbat. And they came before Rabbi Yoḥanan, and he said to them: Let gentiles attend to his burial.

Segment 2

וְאָמַר רָבָא: מֵת בְּיוֹם טוֹב רִאשׁוֹן יִתְעַסְּקוּ בּוֹ עַמְמִין, בְּיוֹם טוֹב שֵׁנִי — יִתְעַסְּקוּ בּוֹ יִשְׂרָאֵל, וַאֲפִילּוּ בְּיוֹם טוֹב שֵׁנִי שֶׁל רֹאשׁ הַשָּׁנָה. מַה שֶּׁאֵין כֵּן בְּבֵיצָה. לְפִי שֶׁאֵינָן בְּנֵי תוֹרָה.

And likewise, Rava said: If a person died on the first day of a Festival, gentiles may attend to his burial; on the second day of a Festival observed in the Diaspora, Jews may attend to his burial. And this is the halakha even on the second day of the festival of Rosh HaShana, which is not so with regard to an egg. With regard to an egg laid on the Festival, the two days of Rosh HaShana are considered one long day that cannot be disconnected. Therefore, in contrast to other two-day Festivals in the Diaspora, use of an egg laid on the first day of Rosh HaShana is prohibited on the second day. However, in deference to the dead, the Sages were lenient with regard to burial on the second day of Rosh HaShana. Why then did Rav Menashya prohibit the inhabitants of Bashkar from attending to the burial on a Festival? The Gemara answers: Because they were not well versed in Torah.

Segment 3

אָמַר רַבִּי אָבִין בַּר רַב הוּנָא אָמַר רַב חָמָא בַּר גּוּרְיָא: מִתְעַטֵּף אָדָם בְּכִילָּה וּבְכִסְכָּסֶיהָ וְיוֹצֵא לִרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים בְּשַׁבָּת, וְאֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ.

Rabbi Avin bar Rav Huna said that Rav Ḥama bar Gureya said: A person may wrap himself in a canopy and in its straps and go out to the public domain on Shabbat, and he need not be concerned about violating the prohibited act of carrying out a burden.

Segment 4

מַאי שְׁנָא מִדְּרַב הוּנָא, דְּאָמַר רַב הוּנָא אָמַר רַב: הַיּוֹצֵא בְּטַלִּית שֶׁאֵינָהּ מְצוּיֶּיצֶת כְּהִילְכָתָהּ בְּשַׁבָּת — חַיָּיב חַטָּאת! צִיצִית לְגַבֵּי טַלִּית — חֲשִׁיבִי, וְלָא בָּטְלִי. הָנֵי לָא חֲשִׁיבִי, וּבָטְלִי.

The Gemara asks: In what way is the halakha with regard to the straps different from that which Rav Huna said? As Rav Huna said that Rav said: One who goes out unwittingly to the public domain on Shabbat with a four-cornered garment that does not have the requisite ritual fringes attached is liable to bring a sin-offering, because the remaining fringes are not an integral part of the garment. Since they do not fulfill the mitzva, they are considered a burden that may not be carried into the public domain on Shabbat. The Gemara answers: There is a distinction between the cases. Ritual fringes are significant relative to a garment and are not negated. They are considered an independent entity that may not be carried out into the public domain. These straps of a canopy are not significant and are negated.

Segment 5

אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא: מַעֲרִים אָדָם עַל הַמְשַׁמֶּרֶת בְּיוֹם טוֹב לִתְלוֹת בָּהּ רִמּוֹנִים, וְתוֹלֶה בָּהּ שְׁמָרִים. אָמַר רַב אָשֵׁי: וְהוּא דְּתָלָה בָּהּ רִמּוֹנִים.

Rabba bar Rav Huna said: According to the Rabbis, who prohibit suspending a strainer on a Festival, a person may nevertheless employ artifice and circumvent the prohibition against suspending a strainer by taking it on a Festival and suspending it for the purpose of pomegranates in it, which is permitted. Once the strainer is suspended, he may suspend it in order to filter sediment from the wine, as even the Rabbis hold that on a Festival it is permitted to do this straining through a strainer that is already suspended. Rav Ashi said: And this is only permitted provided that he actually suspended pomegranates in it before using it to strain wine. It must be obvious to all that he used the strainer in a permitted manner.

Segment 6

מַאי שְׁנָא מֵהָא דְּתַנְיָא: מְטִילִין שֵׁכָר בַּמּוֹעֵד לְצוֹרֶךְ הַמּוֹעֵד, שֶׁלֹּא לְצוֹרֶךְ הַמּוֹעֵד — אָסוּר, אֶחָד שֵׁכַר תְּמָרִים וְאֶחָד שֵׁכַר שְׂעוֹרִים. אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן יָשָׁן — מַעֲרִים וְשׁוֹתֶה מִן הֶחָדָשׁ!

The Gemara asks: In what way is that halakha different from that which was taught in a baraita : One may begin brewing beer during the intermediate days of a Festival for the purpose of using it on the Festival. If it is not for the purpose of the Festival, it is prohibited. This is the halakha both with regard to date beer and with regard to barley beer. And even though they have old beer, one may employ artifice and say that he wishes to drink from the new, and that he is making beer on the intermediate days of the Festival for that purpose. Apparently, it is permitted to employ artifice even without actively demonstrating that one is performing the action for a permitted purpose. This contradicts the opinion of Rav Ashi.

Segment 7

הָתָם לָא מוֹכְחָא מִילְּתָא, הָכָא מוֹכְחָא מִילְּתָא.

The Gemara answers: There, with regard to beer, the matter is not evident. When people see someone starting to brew beer, they have no way of knowing whether or not he has beer at home, and consequently, whether or not the action itself is prohibited in that case. However, here, with regard to a strainer, the matter is evident, as people see him suspending a strainer for wine, which is prohibited.

Segment 8

אֲמַרוּ לֵיהּ רַבָּנַן לְרַב אָשֵׁי: חֲזִי מָר הַאי צוּרְבָּא מֵרַבָּנַן וְרַב הוּנָא בֶּן רַבִּי חִיּוֹן שְׁמֵיהּ, וְאָמְרִי לַהּ רַב הוּנָא בְּרַבִּי חִלְווֹן שְׁמֵיהּ, דְּשָׁקֵל בְּרָא דְתוּמָא וּמַנַּח בְּבַרְזָא דְּדַנָּא, וְאָמַר: לְאַצְּנוֹעֵיהּ קָמִיכַּוֵינָא. וְאָזֵיל וְנָאֵים בְּמַבָּרָא, וְעָבַר לְהַךְ גִּיסָא וְסָיַיר פִּירֵי, וְאָמַר: אֲנָא לְמֵינַם קָמִיכַּוֵינָא!

On the topic of artifice, the Gemara relates that the Rabbis said to Rav Ashi: Master, observe this Torah scholar, and Rav Huna ben Rabbi Ḥayon is his name, and some say that his name is Rav Huna, son of Rabbi Ḥalvan, who took a slice of garlic and placed it in the spout of a barrel, and said: I intend to store it. He thereby stopped the spout on Shabbat. And similarly, he went and slept in a ferry on the river, and the ferryman sailed the ferry across the river, and he thereby crossed to the other side and inspected the fruit of his vineyard. He said: I intend to sleep. In this way, he crosses the river by boat on Shabbat, which is a prohibited activity.

Segment 9

אֲמַר לְהוּ: הַעֲרָמָה קָאָמְרַתְּ? הַעֲרָמָה בִּדְרַבָּנַן הִיא, וְצוּרְבָּא מֵרַבָּנַן לָא אָתֵי לְמִיעְבַּד לְכַתְּחִילָּה.

Rav Ashi said to them: Are you speaking of artifice? This is artifice employed to circumvent a rabbinic prohibition, and a Torah scholar will not come to perform the action ab initio without artifice. Therefore, there is no reason to prohibit him from doing so.

Segment 10

מַתְנִי׳ נוֹתְנִין מַיִם עַל גַּבֵּי הַשְּׁמָרִים בִּשְׁבִיל שֶׁיִּצּוֹלּוּ. וּמְסַנְּנִין אֶת הַיַּיִן בְּסוּדָרִין וּבִכְפִיפָה מִצְרִית.

MISHNA: One may pour water over sediment that is in a strainer on Shabbat so that it will become clear and clean. And similarly, one may filter wine through cloths and through an Egyptian basket made from palm leaves. Since these liquids are drinkable even without filtering, doing so does not violate the prohibition of selecting.

Segment 11

וְנוֹתְנִין בֵּיצָה בִּמְסַנֶּנֶת שֶׁל חַרְדָּל, וְעוֹשִׂין אֵנוֹמֵלִין בְּשַׁבָּת. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: בַּשַּׁבָּת בְּכוֹס, בְּיוֹם טוֹב — בְּלָגִין, וּבַמּוֹעֵד — בְּחָבִית. רַבִּי צָדוֹק אוֹמֵר הַכֹּל לְפִי הָאוֹרְחִין.

And likewise, one may place an egg in a mustard strainer in order to separate the yolk from the egg-white, and one may prepare anumlin , a wine-based drink, on Shabbat. Rabbi Yehuda says: On Shabbat one may only make anumlin in a small cup; on a Festival, in a larger vessel; and on the intermediate days of a Festival, one may even prepare it in a barrel. Rabbi Tzadok says: There is no objective principle; rather, it is all according to the number of guests; if they are numerous, one may prepare a larger quantity of anumlin .

Segment 12

גְּמָ׳ אָמַר זְעֵירִי: נוֹתֵן אָדָם יַיִן צָלוּל וּמַיִם צְלוּלִין לְתוֹךְ הַמְשַׁמֶּרֶת בְּשַׁבָּת וְאֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ, אֲבָל עֲכוּרִין — לָא.

GEMARA: Ze’iri said: A person may place clear wine and clear water into a strainer on Shabbat, and he need not be concerned over the prohibition of selecting, as the wine is drinkable even without this filtering. However, doing so with murky liquids, no, one may not strain them.

Segment 13

מֵיתִיבִי, רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: טוֹרֵד אָדָם חָבִית שֶׁל יַיִן יֵינָהּ וּשְׁמָרֶיהָ, וְנוֹתֵן לְתוֹךְ הַמְשַׁמֶּרֶת בַּשַּׁבָּת וְאֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ! תַּרְגְּמַהּ זְעֵירִי: בֵּין הַגִּיתּוֹת שָׁנוּ.

The Gemara raises an objection from a baraita : Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: A person may stir a barrel of wine, mixing its wine and its sediment, and place it in a strainer on Shabbat, and he need not be concerned. Apparently, it is permitted to place even murky wine in a strainer. Ze’iri explained that baraita and resolved the difficulty: That was taught with regard to wine between the presses, when the wine has yet to ferment and will remain murky even after filtering.

Segment 14

מְסַנְּנִין אֶת הַיַּיִן בְּסוּדָרִין. אָמַר רַב שִׁימִי בַּר חִיָּיא: וּבִלְבַד שֶׁלֹּא יַעֲשֶׂה גּוּמָּא.

We learned in the mishna: One may filter wine through cloths on Shabbat. Rav Shimi bar Ḥiyya said: This is permitted provided one does not make an indentation in the cloth, making it into a receptacle, as one must diverge from the usual, weekday manner of performing this activity.

Segment 15

וּבִכְפִיפָה מִצְרִית. אָמַר רַב חִיָּיא בַּר אָשֵׁי אָמַר רַב: וּבִלְבַד שֶׁלֹּא יַגְבִּיהַּ מִקַּרְקָעִיתוֹ שֶׁל כְּלִי טֶפַח.

We also learned in the mishna: And it is permitted to filter wine on Shabbat through an Egyptian basket. Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi said that Rav said the following caveat to that statement: It is permitted provided one does not lift the basket a handbreadth from the bottom of the lower vessel. This ensures that one performs the activity in an atypical manner (Rabbeinu Yona).

Segment 16

אָמַר רַב: הַאי פְּרוֹנְקָא, אַפַּלְגֵיהּ דְכוּבָּא — שְׁרֵי, אַכּוּלֵּיהּ כּוּבָּא — אֲסִיר.

Rav said: It is permitted to place this cover that has holes for filtering over half a barrel, but it is prohibited to spread it over the entire barrel, in order that it not appear as though one is using it as a filter (Rabbeinu Ḥananel).

Segment 17

אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: לָא נִיהַדַּק אִינִישׁ צִינְיָיתָא בְּפוּמֵּיהּ דְּכוּזַנְתָּא (דְּחָבִיתָא), מִשּׁוּם דְּמֶיחְזֵי כִּמְשַׁמֶּרֶת.

Rav Pappa said: A person may not attach a bundle of straw to the mouth of a barrel’s spigot, because it appears like a strainer.

Segment 18

דְּבֵי רַב פָּפָּא שָׁאפוּ שִׁיכְרָא מִמָּנָא לְמָנָא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב אַחָא מִדִּיפְתִּי לְרָבִינָא: הָאִיכָּא נִיצוֹצוֹת! נִיצוֹצוֹת לְבֵי רַב פָּפָּא לָא חֲשִׁיבִי.

The Gemara relates: The members of Rav Pappa’s household would carefully pour beer from one vessel to another so that the dregs from one vessel would not pass to the other. Rav Aḥa from Difti said to Ravina: But there are the final drops, which remain when one pours the beer into another vessel. When pouring the final drops from the dregs left in the vessel, one is in violation of the prohibition of selecting. He replied: In Rav Pappa’s house they would leave the final drops in the first vessel together with the dregs. They would not attempt to separate them, as the last drops were not significant to the household of Rav Pappa, because beer was always readily available in his house.

Segment 19

וְנוֹתְנִין בֵּיצָה בִּמְסַנֶּנֶת. תָּנֵי יַעֲקֹב קָרְחָה:

And we further learned in the mishna: One may place an egg in a mustard strainer on Shabbat in order to separate the yolk from the egg-white. The Sage, Ya’akov Korḥa, taught a reason for this:

Shabbat 139b

Shabbat 139b

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