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Nedarim 80aChapter 11 VeEllu Nedarim
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Original text
וְאֶלָּא: דְּאָמְרָה ״קֻוֽנָּם הֲנָאַת רְחִיצָה עָלַי לְעוֹלָם אִם אֶרְחַץ״, מִשּׁוּם הָכִי מֵיפֵר לָהּ. דְּהֵיכִי תַּעֲבֵיד? תִּרְחַץ — מִתַּסְרָא הֲנָאַת רְחִיצָה עֲלַהּ, לָא תִּרְחַץ אִית לַהּ נִיוּוּלָא. וְרַבִּי יוֹסֵי סָבַר: אֶפְשָׁר דְּלָא רָחֲצָה, וּלְנִיוּוּל לָא חָיְישִׁינַן.
But rather, explain that she said: The benefit of bathing is konam for me forever if I bathe. And it is due to that reason that he may nullify her vow, as what can she do if there is no nullification? If she bathes, the benefit of bathing is thereby forbidden to her. And if she does not bathe, she will suffer temporary disfigurement [ nivvula ]. And Rabbi Yosei, who maintains that this is not a vow of affliction, maintains that it is possible for her not to bathe, as we are not concerned about her disfigurement.
אִי הָכִי, לִיתְנֵי הָכִי, רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: תְּנַאי זֶה אֵין בּוֹ עִנּוּי נֶפֶשׁ!
The Gemara raises a difficulty: If so, let the mishna teach like this: Rabbi Yosei says that this condition does not involve affliction, as the content of the vow itself is irrelevant, since she can fulfill the condition.
אֶלָּא דְּאָמְרָה: ״הֲנָאַת רְחִיצָה עָלַי לְעוֹלָם אִם אֶרְחַץ הַיּוֹם״. וְרַבִּי יוֹסֵי סָבַר: נִיוּוּל דְּחַד יוֹמָא לָא שְׁמֵיהּ נִיוּוּל.
The Gemara offers another explanation: Rather, explain that she said: The benefit of bathing is konam for me forever if I bathe today. And Rabbi Yosei maintains that nothing will happen if she refrains from bathing today, as the disfigurement resulting from not bathing for one day is not called disfigurement.