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Menachot 72a
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Menachot 72a. The full printed text of this folio side — 16 numbered segments, about 374 words — with the classic commentaries printed on the page.
Rashi
ר"מ סבר לה כר"ע בחדא בלא הביא שליש ופליג עלי' בהביא שליש:
מ"ט אאבל ואבית המדרש קאי דנטיעה נפקא לן כדלעיל ממקום שאי אתה מביא אתה קוצר ומבית האילן אין מביאין עומר [כדאמרינן] בפ' כל קרבנות (לקמן מנחות דף פה.) ללישנא דפרישית לעיל משום כלאים מהדר אף אנטיעות:
קצירכם ראשית קצירכם (ויקרא כ״ג:י׳) לקצירכם תהא זו ראשית ולא לקציר מצוה:
מה ת"ל והא כתיב בסיפיה דקרא תקריב מנחת בכוריך:
מן הקמה דכתיב חרמש בקמה:
מן הלח דכתיב כרמל:
בלילה כדאמרן בריש פירקין אי אתה מוצא תמימות אלא א"כ אתה מתחיל מבערב:
כל שהוא אף מן העמרים:
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Tosafot
סבר לה כוותיה בחדא בכה"ג הוה מצי לשנויי לעיל דאמר בשיטת ר"ש אלא ניחא ליה לאוקומי כר"ע רביה ואיכא השתא שלשה תנאי:
קצירכם ולא קציר מצוה בפרק כל שעה (פסחים דף כג.) דריש קצירכם שלכם יהא ואידך קצירכם דכל ישראל:
כריכות פירש בקונט' אלומות ואי אפשר לומר כן כדמוכח פרק אלו מציאות (בבא מציעא דף כב:):
מנין שאם נקצר ביום כשר ודוחה את השבת לרבי אליעזר דאמר (דאי) [דאפי'] אפשר לעשות מערב שבת דוחה את השבת ניחא אבל לר' עקיבא לא יתכן אע"ג דמצותו בלילה כיון דבדיעבד ביום כשר וצריך לומר דדוחה את השבת לאו אקצירה קאי אלא אהקרבה והא דלקמן דדריש ליה ממועדי ה' שהכתוב קבע מועד אחד לכולן והכא מייתי לה מתקריב לאו דוקא דהא טומאה נפקא לן לקמן ממועדי ה' והכא מייתי לה מתקריב:
אף דלילה ביום לא ע״כ ביום שלמחרת קאמר דאי ביום שלפניו הרי הקטר חלבים דכשרים ביום שחיטתן ותימה דא״כ מאי קשה לימא מתני' דלמא נקצר ביום כשר היינו ביום שלפניו כהקטרת חלבים וי״ל דלענין קצירה לא שייך לחלק בין יום שלפניו ליום שלאחריו כדילפינן בריש פירקין (מנחות דף סו.) קצירה וספירה:
הא רבי הא רבי אלעזר ברבי שמעון כסתם משנה דמגילה (דף כ:) הלכה כדפרישית בריש פירקין (מנחות דף סו. ד״ה זכר):
הבא אחרת תחתיה בפ"ק דיומא (דף ז.) מפרש דאפילו למאן דאמר טומאה הותרה היא בציבור מביא אחרת להתיר שירים:
בשיטת רבי עקיבא רבו אמרה מילתיה דר' עקיבא בפרק רבי אליעזר דמילה (שבת דף קל.) ובפסחים בפ' אלו דברים (פסחים דף סט:) ולקמן בשתי הלחם (מנחות דף צו.) ולא סבר לה כוותיה לגמרי אלא בההיא דכל מלאכה שאפשר כו' דפליג ר' אליעזר ולא סבר ליה כוותיה דשמותי הוא אבל בההיא דמה חריש רשות סבר לה כרבי ישמעאל ולא כרבי עקיבא דמוקי קרא לחריש של ערב שביעית:
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Rashba
אם תקריב מה ת"ל, והלא כתיב בסיפיה דקרא תקריב את מנחת בכוריך, ל"ה. ר"ל דקרא יתירא הוא דאתי לדרשא שהרי לא היה צריך לכתוב כי אם או אם תקריב מנחת בכורים אביב גרש כרמל יהיה ולישתוק מתקריב מנחת בכוריך או לכתוב אביב גרש כרמל תקריב את מנחת בכוריך ולשתוק מאם תקריב מנחת בכורים דחדא מינייהו מייתר אלא דריש יתורא קמא דקרא משום שנכתב ראשון:
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A full text unit for Menachot, daf 72, Amud Aleph, about 374 words in 16 segments. Segment numbers make it easier to return to an exact line; the commentaries below are quoted from their printed sources.
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Rabbi Ishmael was a leading sage of the second generation of Tanna'im, a colleague and disputant of Rabbi Akiva, and the teacher…
Source: Menachot 72a · Segment 12 — “…הָעוֹמֶר מִצְוָה, דִּתְנַן: רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל אוֹמֵר: מָה חָרִישׁ רְשׁוּת,…”
- Rabbi Akiva ben Yosef · Tannaim · Tannaim — Ten Martyrs
Rabbi Akiva, one of the Ten Martyrs, exemplified unwavering devotion to God even under torture, reciting the Shema as he was flayed,…
Source: Menachot 72a · Segment 11 — “…בְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בְּשִׁיטַת רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא רַבּוֹ שֶׁל אָבִיו אֲמָרָהּ,…”
Original text
סָבַר לַהּ כְּוָותֵיהּ בַּחֲדָא, וּפְלִיג עֲלֵיהּ בַּחֲדָא.
The Gemara answers: He holds in accordance with his opinion with regard to one issue, and disagrees with him with regard to one issue. In other words, Rabbi Meir holds in accordance with Rabbi Akiva’s opinion that the harvesting of fodder that has not yet reached one-third of its growth is not considered the start of the reaping of the entire crop, and he disagrees with Rabbi Akiva’s opinion that the harvesting of fodder that has reached one-third of its growth is also not considered the start of the reaping process, as Rabbi Meir maintains that this is considered the start of the reaping process even when it is performed for animals, and therefore it does not divide the field with regard to pe’a .
קוֹצְרִין מִפְּנֵי הַנְּטִיעוֹת, וּמִפְּנֵי בֵּית הָאֵבֶל, וּמִפְּנֵי בֵּית הַמִּדְרָשׁ. מַאי טַעְמָא? ״קְצִירְכֶם״ אָמַר רַחֲמָנָא, וְלֹא קְצִיר מִצְוָה.
§ The mishna teaches: And one may reap crops prior to the omer due to potential damage to saplings growing alongside the crops; and due to the place of mourning, to create room for those consoling the mourners, who would bless them upon their return from the cemetery; and due to the need to create room for students to study, as failure to do so would lead to dereliction of Torah study in the study hall. The Gemara asks: What is the reason one is permitted to reap prior to the omer offering in these instances? The Gemara answers that the Merciful One states: “You shall bring the sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the priest” (Leviticus 23:10). The use of the term “your harvest” indicates that the omer offering’s reaping must precede any personal harvest, but it does not need to precede reaping for the purpose of a mitzva.
וְלֹא יַעֲשֶׂה כְּרִיכוֹת, אֲבָל מַנִּיחָן צְבָתִים. מַאי טַעְמָא? דְּכַמָּה דְּאֶפְשָׁר לָא טָרְחִינַן.
§ The mishna teaches: After reaping the crops for any of these reasons, one may not fashion them into sheaves, but he leaves them unbound. The Gemara asks: What is the reason? The Gemara answers: Although reaping is technically permitted, one should limit his involvement with the new grain. Therefore, as much as possible to avoid exerting effort in involvement with the grain, we do not exert effort.
מִצְוַת הָעוֹמֶר לְהָבִיא מִן הַקָּמָה. תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״וְאִם תַּקְרִיב מִנְחַת בִּכּוּרִים״, מָה תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר? לְפִי שֶׁמִּצְוַת הָעוֹמֶר לְהָבִיא מִן הַקָּמָה, מִנַּיִן שֶׁאִם לֹא מָצָא מִן הַקָּמָה יָבִיא מִן הָעֳמָרִין? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״תַּקְרִיב״.
§ The mishna teaches that the mitzva of the omer is to bring the barley from the standing grain. The Sages taught in a baraita : What is the meaning when the verse states: “And if you bring a meal offering of first fruits to the Lord, you shall bring for the meal offering of your first fruits grain in the ear parched with fire, even groats of the fresh ear” (Leviticus 2:14)? The baraita explains: Since the mitzva of the omer is to bring the barley from the standing grain, from where is it derived that if one does not find barley from the standing grain, he should bring it from the harvested and gathered sheaves? The verse states: “You shall bring,” to include this scenario.
דָּבָר אַחֵר: ״תַּקְרִיב״ – לְפִי שֶׁמִּצְוָה לְהָבִיא מִן הַלַּח, וּמִנַּיִן שֶׁאִם לֹא מָצָא מִן הַלַּח יָבִיא מִן הַיָּבֵשׁ? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״תַּקְרִיב״. דָּבָר אַחֵר: ״תַּקְרִיב״ – לְפִי שֶׁמִּצְוָתוֹ לִקְצוֹר בַּלַּיְלָה, מִנַּיִן שֶׁאִם נִקְצַר בַּיּוֹם כָּשֵׁר? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״תַּקְרִיב״.
Alternatively, the baraita suggests another reason why the verse states: “You shall bring.” Since it is a mitzva to bring the omer from the moist grain, one can ask: From where is it derived that if one does not find barley from the moist grain, he should bring it from the dry grain? The verse states: “You shall bring,” to include this case. Alternatively, the term “you shall bring” teaches the following: Since the mitzva of the omer is for it to be reaped at night, from where is it derived that if it was reaped during the daytime, it is fit? The verse states: “You shall bring.”
וְדוֹחָה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת, תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר ״תַּקְרִיב״, ״תַּקְרִיב״ – כׇּל שֶׁהוּא, ״תַּקְרִיב״ – מִכׇּל מָקוֹם, ״תַּקְרִיב״ – וַאֲפִילּוּ בְּשַׁבָּת, ״תַּקְרִיב״ – וַאֲפִילּוּ בְּטוּמְאָה.
The baraita adds more halakhot that are derived from this same verse. From where is it derived that the omer offering overrides Shabbat? The verse states: “You shall bring.” Also, this term: “You shall bring,” teaches that the omer is brought in any manner that it is found, even from gathered sheaves. Furthermore, the term “you shall bring,” teaches that the omer crop may be brought from anywhere in Eretz Yisrael, if none is found near Jerusalem. Additionally, “you shall bring” teaches that it may be brought even on Shabbat. Lastly, “you shall bring” teaches that it may be brought even in a state of ritual impurity.
נִקְצַר בַּיּוֹם – כָּשֵׁר. וְהָתְנַן: כׇּל הַלַּיְלָה כָּשֵׁר לִקְצִירַת הָעוֹמֶר, וּלְהַקְטִיר חֲלָבִים וְאֵבָרִים. זֶה הַכְּלָל: דָּבָר שֶׁמִּצְוָתוֹ כׇּל הַיּוֹם – כָּשֵׁר כׇּל הַיּוֹם, דָּבָר שֶׁמִּצְוָתוֹ בְּלַיְלָה – כָּשֵׁר כׇּל הַלַּיְלָה.
§ The mishna teaches: If it was reaped during the day, it is fit. The Gemara asks: But didn’t we learn in a mishna ( Megilla 20b): All mitzvot that must be performed at night may be performed anytime during that night. Therefore, the entire night is valid for reaping the omer on the night following the first day of Passover, for burning the fats of offerings that had been brought during the preceding day, and for burning the limbs of burnt offerings. This is the principle: A matter that it is a mitzva to perform during the entire day is valid if performed anytime during the entire day, and likewise a matter that it is a mitzva to perform at night is valid if performed anytime during the entire night.
קָתָנֵי לַיְלָה דּוּמְיָא דְּיוֹם, מָה דְּיוֹם – בַּלַּיְלָה לָא, אַף דְּלַיְלָה – בַּיּוֹם נָמֵי לָא.
The Gemara analyzes this mishna: The mishna teaches the principle of mitzvot performed at night as being similar to the principle of those performed during the day. From this one can infer that just as in the case of a mitzva whose prescribed time is by day, if it is performed at night it is not valid, so too with regard to a mitzva whose prescribed time is at night, if it is performed by day it is also not valid. If so, why does the mishna here teach that if the omer was reaped during the day it is fit?
אָמַר רַבָּה: לָא קַשְׁיָא, הָא רַבִּי, וְהָא רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן. דְּתַנְיָא: הָיָה עוֹמֵד וּמַקְרִיב מִנְחַת הָעוֹמֶר וְנִטְמֵאת, אִם יֵשׁ אַחֶרֶת – אוֹמֵר לוֹ: ״הָבֵא אַחֶרֶת תַּחְתֶּיהָ״, וְאִם לָאו – אוֹמֵר לוֹ: ״הֱוֵי פִּקֵּחַ וּשְׁתוֹק״, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי.
Rabba said: It is not difficult. This mishna, which teaches that the omer reaped during the day is valid, is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi, and that mishna in Megilla , which states that any nighttime mitzva performed during the day is not valid, is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon. As it is taught in a baraita ( Tosefta 3:9): In a case where a priest was standing and sacrificing the omer meal offering and it became ritually impure in his hand, if there is another measure of barley grain that is ready to be reaped, then one says to the priest: Reap the barley and bring another meal offering in its stead. And if there is no alternative meal offering available, one says to him: Be shrewd and keep silent; i.e., do not tell anyone that it is impure. This is the statement of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi.
רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר: בֵּין כָּךְ וּבֵין כָּךְ, אוֹמַר לוֹ: ״הֱוֵי פִּקֵּחַ וּשְׁתוֹק״, שֶׁכׇּל הָעוֹמֶר שֶׁנִּקְצַר שֶׁלֹּא כְּמִצְוָתוֹ – פָּסוּל.
Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon, says: In either case, one says to him: Be shrewd and keep silent, as any omer offering that is harvested not in accordance with the procedure dictated by its mitzva is unfit. Likewise, one may not reap the barley during the daytime, as its prescribed time is at night.
אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר בַּר חָנָה אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר בְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בְּשִׁיטַת רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא רַבּוֹ שֶׁל אָבִיו אֲמָרָהּ, דִּתְנַן: כְּלָל אָמַר רַבִּי עֲקִיבָא: כׇּל מְלָאכָה שֶׁאֶפְשָׁר לוֹ לַעֲשׂוֹתָהּ מֵעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת אֵינָהּ דּוֹחָה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת.
With regard to the opinion of Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon, that barley for the omer offering that is reaped by day is unfit, Rabba bar bar Ḥana says that Rabbi Yoḥanan says: Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon, said his statement in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Akiva, the teacher of his father. As we learned in a mishna ( Shabbat 130a): Rabbi Akiva stated a principle: Any prohibited labor that can be performed on Shabbat eve, i.e., before Shabbat begins, does not override Shabbat.
וְסָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל, דְּאָמַר קְצִירַת הָעוֹמֶר מִצְוָה, דִּתְנַן: רַבִּי יִשְׁמָעֵאל אוֹמֵר: מָה חָרִישׁ רְשׁוּת, אַף קָצִיר רְשׁוּת, יָצָא קְצִיר הָעוֹמֶר שֶׁהִיא מִצְוָה.
And furthermore, Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon, holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yishmael, who said that the reaping of barley for the omer offering is a mitzva. As we learned in a mishna ( Shevi’it 1:4) that Rabbi Yishmael says: The verse: “In plowing time and in harvest you shall rest” (Exodus 34:21), is not referring to the prohibition against farming the land during the Sabbatical Year, as one might have thought. Rather, it is referring to the prohibition against performing labor on Shabbat. And the reason that the verse mentions these two particular forms of labor is to teach that just as the plowing that is prohibited on Shabbat is an otherwise voluntary act, as plowing is never required by the Torah, so too, the harvesting that is prohibited on Shabbat is voluntary. Therefore, the harvesting of the omer is excluded from the prohibition, as it is a mitzva. Consequently, the barley for the omer is harvested on the sixteenth of Nisan, even if it occurs on Shabbat.
וְאִי סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ נִקְצַר שֶׁלֹּא כְּמִצְוָתוֹ כָּשֵׁר, אַמַּאי דָּחֵי שַׁבָּת? נִקְצְרֵיהּ מֵעֶרֶב שַׁבָּת! אֶלָּא מִדְּדָחֵי שַׁבָּת, שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ: נִקְצַר שֶׁלֹּא כְּמִצְוָתוֹ – פָּסוּל.
Rabbi Yoḥanan explains why Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon, holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yishmael: And Rabbi Elazar, son of Rabbi Shimon, reached his opinion by the following reasoning: If it enters your mind to say that barley for the omer offering that is reaped not in accordance with the procedure dictated by its mitzva is nevertheless fit, why would it override Shabbat? Let one reap it on Shabbat eve. Rather, from the fact that the reaping overrides Shabbat, learn from here that if it was reaped not in accordance with its mitzva, it is unfit.
וְרַבִּי, לָאו תַּלְמִידֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן הוּא?
The Gemara comments: Isn’t Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi also a student of Rabbi Shimon, who was a student of Rabbi Akiva? Since Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi was a student of Rabbi Shimon, and by extension of Rabbi Akiva, he should accept Rabbi Akiva’s principle that any prohibited labor that can be performed on Shabbat eve does not override Shabbat. If so, as Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi holds that if the omer was not performed at night it should be done by day, why does its harvest override Shabbat? Let it be harvested on Shabbat eve.
וְהָתַנְיָא, אָמַר רַבִּי: כְּשֶׁהָיִינוּ לְמֵדִין תּוֹרָה אֵצֶל רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בִּתְקוֹעַ, הָיִינוּ מַעֲלִין לוֹ שֶׁמֶן וַאֲלוּנְטִית מֵחָצֵר לְגַג, וּמִגַּג לְקַרְפֵּיף, וּמִקַּרְפֵּיף לְקַרְפֵּיף אַחֵר, עַד שֶׁאָנוּ מַגִּיעִין לְמַעְיָין שֶׁאָנוּ רוֹחֲצִין בּוֹ.
The Gemara cites a proof for its claim that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi was a student of Rabbi Shimon. But isn’t it taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi said: When we would study Torah with Rabbi Shimon in Tekoa, we would carry to him oil and a towel [ aluntit ] from the courtyard to the roof and from the roof into an enclosure similar to a courtyard, and from one enclosure to another enclosure, until we reached the spring in which we would bathe, without passing through a public domain.
סָבַר לַהּ כְּאִידַּךְ דְּרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן, דְּתַנְיָא: אָמַר רַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן: בֹּא וּרְאֵה כַּמָּה חֲבִיבָה מִצְוָה בִּשְׁעָתָהּ, שֶׁהֲרֵי הֶקְטֵר חֲלָבִים וְאֵבָרִים כְּשֵׁרִים כׇּל הַלַּיְלָה, וְלֹא הָיָה מַמְתִּין לָהֶן עַד שֶׁתֶּחְשַׁךְ.
The Gemara answers: Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi concedes that reaping barley for the omer offering overrides Shabbat, in accordance with Rabbi Akiva. But this is not because it is unfit if reaped at an improper time. Rather, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi holds in accordance with the other opinion of Rabbi Shimon, as it is taught in a baraita that Rabbi Shimon said: Come and see how dear is a mitzva performed in its proper time. As burning the fats and limbs is valid all night, and therefore it is possible to wait until the conclusion of Shabbat and burn them at night, but nevertheless one would not wait with them until nightfall; rather, one burns them immediately, even on Shabbat. Likewise, when it comes to the reaping of the omer , although it is fit if reaped during the previous day, reaping at night still overrides Shabbat because a mitzva is dear when performed in its proper time.