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Job 8
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Job Chapter 8 presents 22 verses in a searchable Hebrew text unit. This original reading guide identifies observable themes and a practical path through the chapter without adding an unverified interpretation.
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A unit-by-unit map of all 22 verses on this page: opening words, the moves the text actually makes and a link back to that exact verse.
- Verse 14 words
Opens “וַ֭יַּעַן בִּלְדַּ֥ד הַשּׁוּחִ֗י וַיֹּאמַֽר׃…”
- Verse 25 words
Opens “עַד־אָ֥ן תְּמַלֶּל־אֵ֑לֶּה וְר֥וּחַ כַּ֝בִּ֗יר אִמְרֵי־פִֽיךָ׃…”
- Verse 35 words
Opens “הַ֭אֵל יְעַוֵּ֣ת מִשְׁפָּ֑ט וְאִם־שַׁ֝דַּ֗י יְעַוֵּת־צֶֽדֶק׃…”
- Verse 44 words
Opens “אִם־בָּנֶ֥יךָ חָֽטְאוּ־ל֑וֹ וַֽ֝יְשַׁלְּחֵ֗ם בְּיַד־פִּשְׁעָֽם׃…”
- Verse 55 words
Opens “אִם־אַ֭תָּה תְּשַׁחֵ֣ר אֶל־אֵ֑ל וְאֶל־שַׁ֝דַּ֗י תִּתְחַנָּֽן׃…”
- Verse 69 words
Opens “אִם־זַ֥ךְ וְיָשָׁ֗ר אָ֥֫תָּה כִּֽי־עַ֭תָּה יָעִ֣יר עָלֶ֑יךָ וְ֝שִׁלַּ֗ם…”
- Verse 76 words
Opens “וְהָיָ֣ה רֵאשִׁיתְךָ֣ מִצְעָ֑ר וְ֝אַחֲרִֽיתְךָ֗ יִשְׂגֶּ֥ה מְאֹֽד׃…”
- Verse 86 words
Opens “כִּֽי־שְׁאַל־נָ֭א לְדֹ֣ר רִישׁ֑וֹן וְ֝כוֹנֵ֗ן לְחֵ֣קֶר אֲבוֹתָֽם׃…”
- Verse 98 words
Opens “כִּֽי־תְמ֣וֹל אֲ֭נַחְנוּ וְלֹ֣א נֵדָ֑ע כִּ֤י צֵ֖ל יָמֵ֣ינוּ…”
- Verse 107 words
Opens “הֲלֹא־הֵ֣ם י֭וֹרוּךָ יֹ֣אמְרוּ לָ֑ךְ וּ֝מִלִּבָּ֗ם יוֹצִ֥אוּ מִלִּֽים׃…”
- Verse 115 words
Opens “הֲיִֽגְאֶה־גֹּ֭מֶא בְּלֹ֣א בִצָּ֑ה יִשְׂגֶּה־אָ֥חוּ בְלִי־מָֽיִם׃…”
- Verse 127 words
Opens “עֹדֶ֣נּוּ בְ֭אִבּוֹ לֹ֣א יִקָּטֵ֑ף וְלִפְנֵ֖י כׇל־חָצִ֣יר יִיבָֽשׁ׃…”
- Verse 137 words
Opens “כֵּ֗ן אׇ֭רְחוֹת כׇּל־שֹׁ֣כְחֵי אֵ֑ל וְתִקְוַ֖ת חָנֵ֣ף תֹּאבֵֽד׃…”
- Verse 145 words
Opens “אֲשֶׁר־יָק֥וֹט כִּסְל֑וֹ וּבֵ֥ית עַ֝כָּבִ֗ישׁ מִבְטַחֽוֹ׃…”
- Verse 158 words
Opens “יִשָּׁעֵ֣ן עַל־בֵּ֭יתוֹ וְלֹ֣א יַעֲמֹ֑ד יַחֲזִ֥יק בּ֝֗וֹ וְלֹ֣א…”
- Verse 167 words
Opens “רָטֹ֣ב ה֭וּא לִפְנֵי־שָׁ֑מֶשׁ וְעַ֥ל גַּ֝נָּת֗וֹ יֹנַקְתּ֥וֹ תֵצֵֽא׃…”
- Verse 176 words
Opens “עַל־גַּ֭ל שׇׁרָשָׁ֣יו יְסֻבָּ֑כוּ בֵּ֖ית אֲבָנִ֣ים יֶחֱזֶֽה׃…”
- Verse 186 words
Opens “אִם־יְבַלְּעֶ֥נּוּ מִמְּקֹמ֑וֹ וְכִ֥חֶשׁ בּ֝֗וֹ לֹ֣א רְאִיתִֽיךָ׃…”
- Verse 196 words
Opens “הֶן־ה֭וּא מְשׂ֣וֹשׂ דַּרְכּ֑וֹ וּ֝מֵעָפָ֗ר אַחֵ֥ר יִצְמָֽחוּ׃…”
- Verse 205 words
Opens “הֶן־אֵ֭ל לֹ֣א יִמְאַס־תָּ֑ם וְלֹֽא־יַ֝חֲזִ֗יק בְּיַד־מְרֵעִֽים׃…”
- Verse 215 words
Opens “עַד־יְמַלֵּ֣ה שְׂח֣וֹק פִּ֑יךָ וּשְׂפָתֶ֥יךָ תְרוּעָֽה׃…”
- Verse 226 words
Opens “שֹׂנְאֶ֥יךָ יִלְבְּשׁוּ־בֹ֑שֶׁת וְאֹ֖הֶל רְשָׁעִ֣ים אֵינֶֽנּוּ׃ {פ}…”
Rashi's commentary
Verse 2
(מענה בלדד) ורוח כביר — רוח דברים:
כביר — ל' רוב:
Verse 3
האל יעות משפט — הה"א נקוד פתח ומליצתו לשון תימה:
Verse 4
וישלחם ביד פשעם — על ידי פשעם, (הפשע) הוא נעשה שליח להובילם:
Verse 5
אם אתה תשחר וגו' — יעיר עליך את זכותך:
Verse 6
ושלם נות צדקך — ויעש' את נות צדקך שלם ותמים:
Verse 7
והיה ראשיתך מצער — ראשיתך שעברה מצער לפי אחריתך שישגה מאוד:
Verse 8
לדור רישון — על דור ראשון, כמו (דברים ד׳:ל״ב) כי שאל נא לימים ראשונים:
וכונן — הכן והזדמן לעמוד על חקרי אבותם:
Verse 11
היגאה גומא — זאת יאמרו אין הגומא גדל אלא בעוד שהביצה לחה במימיה ובליחלוחיה, ביצה מריש"ק בלע"ז:
Verse 12
באבו — בליחלוחו ובפריו:
לא יקטף — לא ישבר ולא ינתק כמו (שם כג) וקטפת מלילות:
ולפני כל חציר ייבש — קודם כל חציר ויבש, כשהמים כלים והביצה חריבה:
Verse 13
כן ארחות כל שוכחי אל — להצליח בעת ששעתו משחקת לו עד שתתמלא סאתו:
ותקות — סופו של חנף יאבד:
Verse 14
אשר יקוט — יקצור ויכרות כסלתו והבטחתו:
כסלו — היא מחשבת מבטחו כמו (לקמן לא) אם שמתי זהב כסלי, יקוט, לשון קציר כמו (יחזקאל טז) כמעט קט:
ובית עכביש — שאינו קיים יהיה מבטחו:
Verse 16
רטוב הוא — לח וחזק מזלו טרם בא אליו עת פקודת מכת חומו המייבשתו ולפי שדימהו בגומא מדבר לפי הענין:
ועל גנתו יונקתו תצא — יונקתו שורש היונק או ענף הילדה הגדל בשנה זו כמו מראש יונקתו קטף:
Verse 17
יסובכו — יתאחזו בענף ובסובך:
בית אבנים — יחזה מקום איתן רואה ובונה לו למצודה ומנחם פי' יחזה לשון גבול יגבול אותו יבננו עד גבולו וכן מחוז חפצם (תהילים ק״ז:ל׳) וכן מחזה אל מחזה (מלכים א ז׳:ה׳) כל אלה לפני מכתו:
Verse 18
וכשיבלענו — ממקומו הנפרע ממנו ומקרא חסר הוא זה:
וכחש בו — מקומו:
לא ראיתיך — שאין נשאר ממנו לא שרש ולא ענף והרי הוא כלא היה, שאין נפילתו כמפלת צדיקים כי הצדיק יפול ויקום וזה יפול בלא תקומה:
Verse 19
הן הוא משוש דרכו — של רשע שכל משושו וגם הצלחתו ללא תקוה תשוב:
ומעפר אחר יצמחו — בני אדם שהיו עד הנה שחים עד עפר יצמחו:
אחר אדם אחר יצמח לקבל גדולתו של זה כשם שמצינו ולחוטא נתן ענין וגו' (קהלת ב׳:כ״ו) ע"כ דע על עצמך אם רשע היית אין תקומה למפלתך ואם תם היית כו':
Verse 20
הן אל לא ימאס תם — ולא יחזיק ביד משנאיך המריעים לך עד אשר ישוב לרחם עליך וימלא שחוק פיך:
Edition: On Your Way. License: Public Domain. Sefaria.
Malbim's commentary
Verse 1
The Fourth Oration — Bildad's First Speech
The Shuite debater chooses a different approach, one he claims to have received as a tradition from his forefathers (Ch.8:8).
Like Eliphaz, he too believes in Providence and freedom of choice, and like him he presents a stubborn shoulder (Zechariah 9:29) to the opinion of the astrologers. But since, in his reply to Eliphaz, Job had made no mention of these speculative matters, Bildad too ignores them and presents just a single reasoned argument against those who deny Providence, when he asks: Would God pervert judgment? Or would the Almighty pervert justice? (Job 8:3). What he meant by this is as follows: One of the necessary attributes of the Deity is that no perfection should be wanting in Him nor any shortcoming present in Him. Now, it would certainly be a shortcoming were any injustice or perversion of judgment (Habakkuk 1:4) to emanate from Him, and so such wrongs could not originate in Him.
Job had taken this to be axiomatic and had based his theses upon it; the new disputant [Bildad] acknowledged it too. However, Job had considered these matters from the viewpoint of 'individual' law, and so had reasoned as follows: • For God to do any injustice is prohibited by His essential quality. • However, the governance of individuals is patently not ordered according to law and justice, for we observe that it does not distinguish between the righteous and the wicked, all things come alike to all ; as is the good person so is the sinner (Ecclesiastes 9:2) subject to the accidents of time and its vagaries. • And since it is an injustice for the righteous to suffer undeservedly, this governance cannot emanate from God, for far be it from God to do wrong, or for the Almighty to be unjust (Job 34:10). Therefore Job had concluded that this governance emanates from a blind and undiscerning ruler—the Cosmos—which makes no distinction between the one who serves God and the one who does not.
However, from considerations of primary universal law, Bildad draws just the opposite conclusion, for according to his reasoning: • Just as injustice must be precluded from God for it is a shortcoming, so must omnipotence be attributed to Him for it is a perfection. • Now, by saying that God has delegated the governance of the world to a blind ruler who does not discriminate between good and bad, we could indeed mitigate what happens to individuals by reason of this misrule, arguing that these things do not emanate from God but from those agents of the Cosmos which control individual governance. • However, in terms of primary universal law we could not justify what He has done. For we would ask whether this delegation of governance to the Cosmos was not of itself an injustice on His part. There are only two possible ways out of this. The first is to posit that He is incapable of exercising judgment or of administering individual governance and that is way He has delegated them to the Cosmos. But this cannot be, for the Deity must be Omnipotent. Bildad expresses this rhetorically by asking, ' Would God —who is Omnipotent and Supreme— 'pervert judgment? '.
The second way is to assert that He has abandoned the lower beings and no longer wishes to take care of them, either out of disgust or jealousy ( Guide for the Perplexed, Part 3: Chapter 16). But this would be unjust and prompts Bildad to ask: ' Would the Almighty pervert justice? '
Bildad argues that all this constitutes a conclusive proof that the governance of individuals emanates from Providence and that the misrule we infer from the suffering of the righteous is a misunderstanding on our part. For in truth, everything is ordered by Him in justice and with judgment; for He is a faithful God and there is no injustice (Deuteronomy 32:4).
This being so, why indeed does God allow bad things to happen to good people? In answering this, Bildad adopts a different approach. According to his philosophy, God afflicts a righteous person without his having first sinned, only so that He can subsequently benefit him, by repaying him with good in exchange for the bad, many times over. The afflictions are part of a system of compensation and exchange, a quid pro quo whereby present adversity brings future bounty (Ch.8:6-7).
In the sayings of the wise, man is often likened to a plant. Taking up this metaphor, Bildad explains that the system of exchange he has proposed can be compared to the way Nature acts with regard to different plants. If a gardener uproots a plant that is growing in a rocky, dry and desolate site and replants it in a fresh and fertile plot, the uprooting obviously does it no harm. On the contrary, it is for its good so that it will grow as a noble vine (Jeremiah 2:21). However not every plant can take this sort of treatment. Plants which need lots of water to grow, and which are by their nature tender and soft, will not take root again after being transplanted but instead will wither quicker than any other plant (Job 8:12).
Providence works in the same way with mankind — A wicked person who is accustomed to pleasures and luxuries would not survive transplantation and so is just taken from the world before his time. Thus, no good comes to the wicked nor does he live very long. However, though a righteous person may be uprooted and transplanted many times over, being dispossessed and suffering physical pain, this is ultimately for his own good, in order to set him in a firm place (Isaiah 22:23). For he will yet bring forth fruit in old age; (Psalms 92:15) For he will yet bring forth fruit in old age; (Psalms 92:15) and the Lord's purpose prospering in his hand (Isaiah 53:10). (Ch.8:11-20).
Accordingly, Bildad recommends to Job that he should hold fast, (Daniel 11:1) place his trust in God (Psalms 21:8) and plead with Him (2 Kings 1:13). For then in place of his suffering his portion will rejoice (Isaiah 61:7) and in the end he will flourish tremendously (Job 8:7). (Ch.8:17, 8:21-22).
Verse 2
Bildad rejects Job's argument that God has delegated the governance of individuals to the Cosmos —
Verse 3
— by arguing that this would be a breach of universal law and God could not be guilty of such an iniquity. On the contrary, there is personal Providence and it rules justly.
Verse 4
Job's children had sinned and despite Job's expiation on their behalf, they had been justly punished. But as regards truly righteous persons such as Job himself, Bildad expounds the idea that they are made to suffer presently in order that they might benefit later.
Verse 8
Bildad explains that the belief in ultimate compensation for unwarranted suffering is an ancient tradition
Verse 10
Bildad elaborates his theory that compensation and retribution will ultimately be made for the unwarranted suffering of the good and for the equally unwarranted prosperity of the wicked. He illustrates this idea with a metaphor in which the different types of people are compared to different species of plants.
Verse 21
Bildad appeals to Job to accept this and to maintain his faith and hope in God.
Edition: Malbim's Job, trans. Jeremy I. Pfeffer. Ktav, 2003. License: CC-BY. Sefaria.
Original text
עַד־אָ֥ן תְּמַלֶּל־אֵ֑לֶּה וְר֥וּחַ כַּ֝בִּ֗יר אִמְרֵי־פִֽיךָ׃
How long will you speak such things? Your utterances are a mighty wind!
הַ֭אֵל יְעַוֵּ֣ת מִשְׁפָּ֑ט וְאִם־שַׁ֝דַּ֗י יְעַוֵּת־צֶֽדֶק׃
Will God pervert the right? Will the Almighty pervert justice?
אִם־בָּנֶ֥יךָ חָֽטְאוּ־ל֑וֹ וַֽ֝יְשַׁלְּחֵ֗ם בְּיַד־פִּשְׁעָֽם׃
If your children sinned against [God], They were dispatched for their transgression.
אִם־אַ֭תָּה תְּשַׁחֵ֣ר אֶל־אֵ֑ל וְאֶל־שַׁ֝דַּ֗י תִּתְחַנָּֽן׃
But if you seek God And supplicate the Almighty,
אִם־זַ֥ךְ וְיָשָׁ֗ר אָ֥֫תָּה כִּֽי־עַ֭תָּה יָעִ֣יר עָלֶ֑יךָ וְ֝שִׁלַּ֗ם נְוַ֣ת צִדְקֶֽךָ׃
If you are blameless and upright, [God] will protect you, And grant well-being to your righteous home.
וְהָיָ֣ה רֵאשִׁיתְךָ֣ מִצְעָ֑ר וְ֝אַחֲרִֽיתְךָ֗ יִשְׂגֶּ֥ה מְאֹֽד׃
Though your beginning be small, In the end you will grow very great.
כִּֽי־שְׁאַל־נָ֭א לְדֹ֣ר רִישׁ֑וֹן וְ֝כוֹנֵ֗ן לְחֵ֣קֶר אֲבוֹתָֽם׃
Ask the generation past, Study what their forebears have searched out—
כִּֽי־תְמ֣וֹל אֲ֭נַחְנוּ וְלֹ֣א נֵדָ֑ע כִּ֤י צֵ֖ל יָמֵ֣ינוּ עֲלֵי־אָֽרֶץ׃
For we are of yesterday and know nothing; Our days on earth are a shadow—
הֲלֹא־הֵ֣ם י֭וֹרוּךָ יֹ֣אמְרוּ לָ֑ךְ וּ֝מִלִּבָּ֗ם יוֹצִ֥אוּ מִלִּֽים׃
Surely they will teach you and tell you, Speaking out of their understanding.
הֲיִֽגְאֶה־גֹּ֭מֶא בְּלֹ֣א בִצָּ֑ה יִשְׂגֶּה־אָ֥חוּ בְלִי־מָֽיִם׃
Can papyrus thrive without marsh? Can rushes grow without water?
עֹדֶ֣נּוּ בְ֭אִבּוֹ לֹ֣א יִקָּטֵ֑ף וְלִפְנֵ֖י כׇל־חָצִ֣יר יִיבָֽשׁ׃
While still tender, not yet plucked, They would wither before any other grass.
כֵּ֗ן אׇ֭רְחוֹת כׇּל־שֹׁ֣כְחֵי אֵ֑ל וְתִקְוַ֖ת חָנֵ֣ף תֹּאבֵֽד׃
Such is the fate of all who forget God; The hope of the impious man comes to naught—
אֲשֶׁר־יָק֥וֹט כִּסְל֑וֹ וּבֵ֥ית עַ֝כָּבִ֗ישׁ מִבְטַחֽוֹ׃
Whose confidence is a thread of gossamer, Whose trust is a spider’s web.
יִשָּׁעֵ֣ן עַל־בֵּ֭יתוֹ וְלֹ֣א יַעֲמֹ֑ד יַחֲזִ֥יק בּ֝֗וֹ וְלֹ֣א יָקֽוּם׃
He leans on his house—it will not stand; He seizes hold of it, but it will not hold.
רָטֹ֣ב ה֭וּא לִפְנֵי־שָׁ֑מֶשׁ וְעַ֥ל גַּ֝נָּת֗וֹ יֹנַקְתּ֥וֹ תֵצֵֽא׃
He stays fresh even in the sun; His shoots spring up in his garden;
עַל־גַּ֭ל שׇׁרָשָׁ֣יו יְסֻבָּ֑כוּ בֵּ֖ית אֲבָנִ֣ים יֶחֱזֶֽה׃
His roots are twined around a heap, They take hold of a house of stones.
אִם־יְבַלְּעֶ֥נּוּ מִמְּקֹמ֑וֹ וְכִ֥חֶשׁ בּ֝֗וֹ לֹ֣א רְאִיתִֽיךָ׃
When he is uprooted from his place, It denies him, [saying,] “I never saw you.”
הֶן־ה֭וּא מְשׂ֣וֹשׂ דַּרְכּ֑וֹ וּ֝מֵעָפָ֗ר אַחֵ֥ר יִצְמָֽחוּ׃
Such is his happy lot; And from the earth others will grow.
הֶן־אֵ֭ל לֹ֣א יִמְאַס־תָּ֑ם וְלֹֽא־יַ֝חֲזִ֗יק בְּיַד־מְרֵעִֽים׃
Surely God does not despise the blameless, And gives no support to evildoers.
עַד־יְמַלֵּ֣ה שְׂח֣וֹק פִּ֑יךָ וּשְׂפָתֶ֥יךָ תְרוּעָֽה׃
Your mouth will yet be filled with laughter, And your lips with shouts of joy.
שֹׂנְאֶ֥יךָ יִלְבְּשׁוּ־בֹ֑שֶׁת וְאֹ֖הֶל רְשָׁעִ֣ים אֵינֶֽנּוּ׃ {פ}
Your enemies will be clothed in disgrace; The tent of the wicked will vanish.
English translation: THE JPS TANAKH: Gender-Sensitive Edition · CC-BY-NC