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Bava Metzia 7a

Bava Metzia 7a. The full printed text of this folio side — 23 numbered segments, about 431 words — with the classic commentaries printed on the page.

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Segment 1

אֶלָּא מַאי אִית לָךְ לְמֵימַר, עֲשִׂירִי וַדַּאי אָמַר רַחֲמָנָא וְלֹא עֲשִׂירִי סָפֵק. הָכָא נָמֵי: עֲשִׂירִי וַדַּאי אָמַר רַחֲמָנָא וְלֹא עֲשִׂירִי סָפֵק.

Rather, what have you to say to explain why one is not required to tithe his flock in a case where a counted animal jumped back into the pen? The Merciful One states: “And all the tithe of the herd or the flock, anyone that passes under the rod, the tenth shall be sacred to the Lord” (Leviticus 27:32), from which it is derived that a certain tenth animal must be tithed, but not an uncertain tenth, i.e., an animal that is not certainly the tenth. Here too, the entire flock is exempt from tithe because the Merciful One states that a certain tenth animal must be designated as tithe and not an uncertain tenth, i.e., an animal that is not certainly subject to tithe. Therefore, there is proof from the baraita that if a priest seizes an animal whose status as firstborn is uncertain, the court removes it from his possession.

Segment 2

אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב אַחָא מִדִּפְתִּי לְרָבִינָא: מַאי סְפֵיקוֹת? אִילֵּימָא סְפֵק בְּכוֹרוֹת, ״יִהְיֶה קֹדֶשׁ״ אָמַר רַחֲמָנָא, וְלֹא שֶׁכְּבָר קָדוֹשׁ.

Rav Aḥa of Difti said to Ravina: What are these animals of uncertain status that that are subject to tithe according to the mishna? If we say that the reference is to animals whose status as firstborns is uncertain, the Merciful One states: “The tenth shall be sacred to the Lord,” indicating that the tithe animal becomes sacred only when it is designated as tithe, from which it is inferred: But not an animal that is already sacred for a different reason. Therefore, since an animal whose status as firstborn is uncertain is already considered sacred due to the uncertainty, the sanctity of animal tithe would not apply to it.

Segment 3

אֶלָּא סְפֵק פִּדְיוֹן פֶּטֶר חֲמוֹר, וְכִדְרַב נַחְמָן. דְּאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר אֲבוּהּ: יִשְׂרָאֵל שֶׁיֵּשׁ לוֹ עֲשָׂרָה סְפֵק פִּטְרֵי חֲמוֹר בְּתוֹךְ בֵּיתוֹ – מַפְרִישׁ עֲלֵיהֶן עֲשָׂרָה שֵׂיִין, וּמְעַשְּׂרָן, וְהֵן שֶׁלּוֹ.

Rather, the mishna must be referring to a case of an uncertain redemption of a firstborn donkey, i.e., a lamb used as redemption for a donkey whose status as firstborn is uncertain. And this is in accordance with the statement of Rav Naḥman, as Rav Naḥman says that Rabba bar Avuh says: An Israelite who has ten donkeys whose status as firstborn is uncertain in his home separates ten lambs to redeem them, and tithes the lambs, separating one as a tithe, and they all belong to him, as a priest cannot prove that he is entitled to any of the ten.

Segment 4

מַאי הָוֵי עֲלַהּ דְּמַסּוּתָא? תָּא שְׁמַע, דְּאָמַר רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אָבִין: הֲוָה עוֹבָדָא בֵּי רַב חִסְדָּא וְרַב חִסְדָּא בֵּי רַב הוּנָא, וּפַשְׁטַהּ מֵהָא דְּאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: כׇּל מָמוֹן שֶׁאֵין יָכוֹל לְהוֹצִיאוֹ בְּדַיָּינִין, הִקְדִּישׁוֹ – אֵינוֹ קָדוֹשׁ.

The Gemara asks: What halakhic conclusion was reached about this matter of the bathhouse? Come and hear a conclusion, as Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Avin said: There was a similar incident that was brought before the school of Rav Ḥisda, and Rav Ḥisda brought the case before the school of Rav Huna, and Rav Huna resolved the issue based on that which Rav Naḥman says: With regard to any property that one cannot recover from the possession of another party by legal process, if he consecrated it while it was in the possession of the other party the consecration is not valid.

Segment 5

הָא יָכוֹל לְהוֹצִיאוֹ בְּדַיָּינִין, הִקְדִּישׁוֹ – קָדוֹשׁ, אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אַפְּקֵיהּ. וְהָאָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: גָּזַל וְלֹא נִתְיָיאֲשׁוּ הַבְּעָלִים – שְׁנֵיהֶם אֵינָם יְכוֹלִין לְהַקְדִּישׁוֹ. זֶה – לְפִי שֶׁאֵינָהּ שֶׁלּוֹ, וְזֶה – לְפִי שֶׁאֵינָהּ בִּרְשׁוּתוֹ.

The Gemara questions Rav Naḥman’s statement: By inference, is it so that if one can recover the property from the other party by legal process, and he consecrated it, the consecration is valid, although he has not yet recovered it? But doesn’t Rabbi Yoḥanan say: In a case where one robbed another of an item and the owner did not despair of retrieving it, neither the owner nor the robber can consecrate it; this one, the robber, because it is not his, and that one, the owner, because it is not in his possession? The indication is that one cannot consecrate even his own item if it is not in his possession.

Segment 6

מִי סָבְרַתְּ בְּמַסּוּתָא מִטַּלְטְלִין עָסְקִינַן? בְּמַסּוּתָא מְקַרְקְעֵי עָסְקִינַן, דְּכִי יָכוֹל לְהוֹצִיאָה בְּדַיָּינִין, בִּרְשׁוּתֵיהּ קָיְימָא.

The Gemara answers: Did you think that in the case of the bathhouse we are dealing with a movable bath? No, we are dealing with a bath that is excavated in the ground, in which case once its owner can recover it by legal process there is no need to take possession of it, as it already exists in his possession.

Segment 7

תָּנֵי רַב תַּחְלִיפָא בַּר מַעְרְבָא קַמֵּיהּ דְּרַבִּי אֲבָהוּ: שְׁנַיִם אֲדוּקִים בְּטַלִּית – זֶה נוֹטֵל עַד מָקוֹם שֶׁיָּדוֹ מַגַּעַת, וְזֶה נוֹטֵל עַד מָקוֹם שֶׁיָּדוֹ מַגַּעַת, וְהַשְּׁאָר חוֹלְקִין בְּשָׁוֶה. מַחְוֵי לֵיהּ רַבִּי אֲבָהוּ: וּבִשְׁבוּעָה.

§ Rav Taḥalifa from the West, i.e., Eretz Yisrael, taught this baraita before Rabbi Abbahu: If two people are grasping a garment, this one takes up to where his hand reaches, and that one takes up to where his hand reaches, and they divide the remainder, the part of the garment that is in the grasp of neither, equally. Rabbi Abbahu indicated by means of a hand gesture that Rav Taḥalifa should add: And this is with the proviso that they take an oath.

Segment 8

אֶלָּא מַתְנִיתִין, דְּקָתָנֵי דְּפָלְגִי בַּהֲדָדֵי, וְלָא קָתָנֵי זֶה נוֹטֵל עַד מְקוֹם שֶׁיָּדוֹ מַגַּעַת, הֵיכִי מַשְׁכַּחַתְּ לַהּ? אָמַר רַב פָּפָּא: דִּתְפִיסִי בְּכַרְכְּשָׁתָא.

The Gemara asks: But then how can you find a case where the halakha in the mishna applies? As the mishna teaches that they divide the garment between them, and does not teach that this one takes up to where his hand reaches and that one does likewise. Rav Pappa said: The mishna is discussing a case where neither of them is grasping the garment itself, but rather they are holding onto the fringes [ bekarkashta ] of the garment. Therefore, each is required to take an oath and they divide the garment between them.

Segment 9

אָמַר רַב מְשַׁרְשְׁיָא, שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ: הַאי סוּדָרָא, כֵּיוָן דְּתָפֵיס בֵּיהּ שָׁלֹשׁ עַל שָׁלֹשׁ, קָרֵינַן בֵּיהּ ״וְנָתַן לְרֵעֵהוּ״.

Rav Mesharshiyya said: Learn a halakha with regard to the symbolic transfer of a cloth as a formal act of acquisition from Rav Pappa’s statement: The entire cloth need not change hands. Rather, once the recipient of the cloth has grasped three by three fingerbreadths of the cloth, which is the minimum size of a cloth that can be considered a utensil, the transaction takes effect, as we consider such an action to be an implementation of the verse upon which acquisition by means of a cloth is based: “Now this was the custom in former times in Israel…to confirm all things: A man drew off his shoe, and gave it to his neighbor; and this was the attestation in Israel” (Ruth 4:7).

Segment 10

דִּכְמַאן דִּפְסִיק דְּמֵי, וְקָנֵי.

This is because such an amount of the cloth is significant enough to be considered as though it were severed from the rest of the cloth, and therefore when the recipient grasps it, it effects the acquisition, even though the rest of the cloth is still in the hand of the other party.

Segment 11

וּמַאי שְׁנָא מִדְּרַב חִסְדָּא, דְּאָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: גֵּט בְּיָדָהּ וּמְשִׁיחָה בְּיָדוֹ, אִם יָכוֹל לְנַתְּקוֹ וְלַהֲבִיאוֹ אֶצְלוֹ – אֵינָהּ מְגוֹרֶשֶׁת, וְאִם לָאו – מְגוֹרֶשֶׁת!

The Gemara asks: But in what way is this case different from the ruling of Rav Ḥisda? As Rav Ḥisda said: In a case where a husband placed a bill of divorce in his wife’s hand, and a string attached to the bill of divorce remained in his hand, if the husband can still pull the bill of divorce out of her hand and bring it to him, she is not divorced; and if he is not able to do so, e.g., if the string is too flimsy, then she is divorced. This indicates that as long as part of the bill of divorce remains in his hand, it is not considered as though he gave it to her.

Segment 12

הָתָם כְּרִיתוּת בָּעֵינַן, וְלֵיכָּא. הָכָא נְתִינָה בָּעֵינַן, וְהָא אִיכָּא.

The Gemara answers: There, in the case of a bill of divorce, we require that it accomplish a complete severance between the husband and wife, and as long as the husband continues to have some hold on the bill of divorce there is no complete severance. By contrast, here, in the case of a transaction by means of a cloth, we require an act of giving, and there is a valid act of giving even if only part of the cloth was given.

Segment 13

אָמַר רָבָא: אִם הָיְתָה טַלִּית מוּזְהֶבֶת – חוֹלְקִין. פְּשִׁיטָא? לָא צְרִיכָא, דְּקָאֵי דַּהֲבָא בֵּי מִצְעֵי.

Rava says: Even if the garment was fashioned with gold thread, they divide it. The Gemara asks: Isn’t this obvious? Why would a gold garment have a different halakha ? The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary to state this halakha in a case where the gold is in the middle of the garment, neither in one’s hand nor in the other’s.

Segment 14

הָא נָמֵי פְּשִׁיטָא! לָא צְרִיכָא דְּמִיקְרַב לְגַבֵּי דְּחַד. מַהוּ דְּתֵימָא דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: פְּלוֹג הָכִי, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: מַאי חָזֵית דְּפָלְגַתְּ הָכִי? פְּלוֹג הָכִי.

The Gemara challenges: This too is obvious; the halakha is that they divide the remainder. The Gemara answers: No, it is necessary to state this halakha in a case where the gold is closer to one of them, though it is not in his grasp. Lest you say that the one to whom the gold is closer can say to the other: Divide it in this manner, along the middle line of the garment between us, leaving most of the gold in my possession, Rava therefore teaches us that they divide the gold equally. The reason is that the other litigant can say to him in response: What did you see that led you to divide it in that manner, e.g., lengthwise? Divide it in this manner, e.g., widthwise, so that the gold will be divided equally between us.

Segment 15

תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: שְׁנַיִם אֲדוּקִין בִּשְׁטָר, מַלְוֶה אוֹמֵר: שֶׁלִּי הוּא, וְנָפַל מִמֶּנִּי וּמְצָאתִיו, וְלֹוֶה אָמַר: שֶׁלְּךָ הוּא, וּפְרַעְתִּיו לָךְ – יִתְקַיֵּים הַשְּׁטָר בְּחוֹתְמָיו, דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי.

§ The Sages taught in a baraita ( Tosefta 1:8): In a case where two people, a creditor and a debtor, are grasping a promissory note, and the creditor says: The promissory note is mine, as the debt has not yet been repaid, and I merely dropped it and I subsequently found it, and the debtor says: The promissory note was once yours, i.e., you lent me the money, but I already repaid you, and you therefore gave me the note, in that case the promissory note must be ratified through its signatories for the creditor to collect the debt. In other words, the court must first ascertain the validity of the promissory note by verifying that the signatures of the witnesses are authentic. This is the statement of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi.

Segment 16

רַבָּן שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל אוֹמֵר: יַחְלוֹקוּ.

Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: The creditor and the debtor divide the debt attested to in the promissory note, i.e., the debtor is liable to pay half the amount, due to uncertainty as to who is telling the truth.

Segment 17

נָפַל לְיַד דַּיָּין – לֹא יוֹצִיאוֹ עוֹלָמִית. רַבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר: הֲרֵי הוּא בְּחֶזְקָתוֹ.

If a promissory note fell into the possession of a judge and the two parties do not agree as to which of them it belongs, either to the creditor, and the debt has yet to have been repaid, or to the debtor, and the debt was repaid, it may never be removed from the judge’s possession to collect the debt until proof is provided. Rabbi Yosei says: The promissory note retains its presumptive status of validity and the litigants proceed in accordance with its contents.

Segment 18

אָמַר מָר: יִתְקַיֵּים הַשְּׁטָר בְּחוֹתְמָיו. וְגָבֵי לֵיהּ מַלְוֶה כּוּלֵּיהּ. וְלֵית לֵיהּ מַתְנִיתִין? שְׁנַיִם אוֹחֲזִין כּוּ׳!

The Gemara discusses the baraita . The Master said that the promissory note must be ratified through its signatories. And does this indicate that once it is ratified, the creditor collects the entire debt? But doesn’t Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi hold in accordance with the halakha taught in the mishna with regard to two people holding a garment, that they divide the garment? Here too, each party should be entitled half the promissory note, and the debtor should therefore be obligated to pay only half the debt.

Segment 19

אָמַר רָבָא אָמַר רַב נַחְמָן: בִּמְקוּיָּם – דִּבְרֵי הַכֹּל יַחְלוֹקוּ, כִּי פְּלִיגִי בְּשֶׁאֵינוֹ מְקוּיָּם.

Rava says that Rav Naḥman says: In a case where the promissory note was ratified by the court, everyone agrees that the litigants divide it, and the debtor repays only half of the debt. They disagree with regard to a case where it was not ratified.

Segment 20

רַבִּי סָבַר: מוֹדֶה בִּשְׁטָר שֶׁכְּתָבוֹ – צָרִיךְ לְקַיְּימוֹ. וְאִי מְקַיֵּים לֵיהּ פָּלֵיג, וְאִי לָא מְקַיֵּים לֵיהּ לָא פָּלֵיג.

Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi holds that even when a debtor admits that he wrote a promissory note, the creditor must ratify it in court in order for the creditor to collect the debt. And therefore, if he ratifies the promissory note in court he divides it with the debtor, and if he does not ratify it he does not divide it with the debtor. If he is unable to ratify the signatures of the witnesses, he receives nothing even if the debtor admits that he borrowed the money.

Segment 21

מַאי טַעְמָא? חַסְפָּא בְּעָלְמָא הוּא, מַאן קָא מְשַׁוֵּי לֵיהּ לְהַאי שְׁטָרָא – לֹוֶה, הָא קָאָמַר דִּפְרִיעַ.

What is the reason for Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi’s opinion? He holds that an unratified promissory note is merely a shard. Who renders this document a valid promissory note? The debtor does. The validity of the note is solely dependent on the corroboration of the debtor, and doesn’t the debtor say that the debt mentioned in the promissory note was repaid? Therefore, the note is worthless unless it is ratified by the witnesses in court.

Segment 22

וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן גַּמְלִיאֵל סָבַר: מוֹדֶה בִּשְׁטָר שֶׁכְּתָבוֹ אֵין צָרִיךְ לְקַיְּימוֹ, וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא מְקַיֵּים לֵיהּ – יַחְלוֹקוּ.

And Rabbi Shimon ben Gamliel holds that if a debtor admits that he wrote a promissory note, the creditor is not required to ratify it in court in order for the creditor to collect the debt. And therefore, even if the creditor does not ratify it, the promissory note is valid, and they divide it.

Segment 23

נָפַל לְיַד דַּיָּין לֹא יוֹצִיאוֹ עוֹלָמִית,

It is taught in the baraita that if a promissory note fell into the possession of a judge it may never be removed from his possession until proof is provided.

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